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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message directly and substantively discusses a workers' compensation injury scenario — specifically, an applicant who became dizzy and nauseous at work (the original work injury/AOE/COE claim) and then sustained a second injury (head injury from fainting) while being treated at an employer-owned ER. The message discusses legal issues arising from these injuries, including credit issues, dual capacity doctrine, and Labor Code provisions. The message contains substantive discussion of workplace injury and a secondary injury in the context of California workers' compensation law. However, because the real question is simply a keyword search for 'injury' with no further specificity, it is difficult to determine precisely what the user wants to learn. The message does contain meaningful, substantive content about injury in the workers' compensation context, making it at least substantially relevant to someone searching for content about injury in this legal forum.
"Justin Dixon" Date: August 10, 2026 1:41:00 PM Subject: Credit Issue - Employer-Paid Dual Capacity Settlement vs. §§ 3861/3600(b)/3602 - Any Guidance? Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Justin Dixon Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Mates, I'd appreciate any thoughts or case law support on a credit issue that just came up on the eve of an AOE/COE trial I was set for in AHM today with Judge Alice Burden. Factual Background: Applicant, a UCLA/Regents employee, became dizzy and nauseous at work and was transported to a Regents-owned ER across the street for treatment. While there, she was left unattended, fainted, and hit her head. The underlying comp claim (AOE/COE) has been disputed and is set for trial. On the eve of that trial, we learned Applicant separately settled a civil claim against Regents for the ER incident to the tune of a $150,000 general release - which Defendant now says entitles it to a credit against any comp benefits awarded. Given the size of the settlement relative to likely exposure, this credit issue could wash out the comp claim entirely, so it seems like it needs to be resolved by judicial finding before AOE/COE proceeds. There didn't seem to be any point trying AOE/COE if the credit issue is dispositive either way. Judge Burden seemed to agree and took us off calendar. The Issue: Regents is both the employer and the released civil defendant (dual capacity - second injury during ER treatment, separate from the original work injury). That doesn't fit cleanly under Labor Code § 3861, the third-party subrogation chapter (§§3850-3865) which applies to "third party tortfeasors". It also doesn't obviously fit §3600(b), which only credits settlements obtained "pursuant to" the enumerated §3602(b)/§ 4558 exclusivity exceptions - and our claim isn't one of those enumerated exceptions. So on its face, neither statute seems to reach this settlement - but I expect Defendant to lean hard on general equitable "no double recovery" principles to support their entitlement to the credit. Has anyone dealt with a credit dispute in this dual-capacity situation where an employer pays its own civil settlement rather than a true third party? Any case law balancing §§3861, 3600(b), and 3602 in this scenario, or addressing how far the equitable double-recovery argument can stretch past the statutory provisions involving credit? Any guidance, war stories, or legal authority support is appreciated. Thanks in advance. Very truly yours, Justin P. Dixon, Esq. DIXON LAW, APC 921 N. Harbor Blvd., Suite 434 ' La Habra, CA 90631 Office: 562.685.0003 ' Fax: 562.685.0020 www.dixonlawapc.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message directly references a specific injury mechanism — a worker using a torque bar to tighten a strap on a load, with the bar slipping — resulting in an accepted specific injury claim involving the neck, back, and shoulders. The message contains substantive information about an injury (its nature, mechanism, and body parts affected), which is directly responsive to a search for content involving 'injury.' The primary focus of the message is on AME selection (Mikiko Murakami vs. Isono/Bathgate), but the injury description is clearly articulated and substantive, not merely incidental.
"Matthew Keller" Date: August 10, 2026 12:28:00 PM Subject: DA offers AME Steven Isono, Beth Bathgate and Mikiko Murakami Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Matthew Keller Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Accepted specific injury (using torque bar to tighten strap on load, bar slipped) ortho claim neck / back / shoulders I have used and use Dr. Isono and Dr. Bathgate as AME. I would like to try someone new and all recent feedback on Mikiko Murakami is positive Is Mikiko Murakami OK to use as AME or not as good as Isono or Bathgate? Thank you in advance!
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly discusses a workers' compensation injury case involving a stroke at work, with secondary orthopedic injuries (head/neck/shoulder) resulting from a fall. The message addresses substantive legal and medical issues around whether the fall-related musculoskeletal injuries constitute a compensable industrial injury, referencing case law (Employers Mutual v. IAC and Harris Ranch v. WCAB) relevant to injury causation. It also provides a practical warning about a specific QME (Dr. Konovalenko) who changed his opinion on industrial injury causation. While the keyword 'injury' is extremely broad and this message only covers one specific factual scenario, the message does substantively discuss injury causation, medical evidence standards, and compensability — core topics within the scope of a search for 'injury' in a workers' compensation context.
"Bonnie Wilson" Date: August 06, 2026 4:56:00 PM Subject: Dr Konovalenko Reply to list Reply to sender Print My client suffered a stroke at work. As he fell he struck his head/neck on part of the machinery in the field and landed on his shoulder. The DA took his deposition with him stating he struck his head on the ‘mesa’ part of the machinery and fell to the ground. He really doesn’t know what happened because he had passed out at the time. He only knows what the people around him said. Dr. Konovalenko initially said there was an industrial injury to the neck and shoulder. In the initial report he indicated my client experienced a seizure after falling with the co-workers’ watching him perform grand mal seizure body movements after losing consciousness. Thus it is medically probable he experienced a seizure. Striking the hard surface and experiencing seizure-like movements would cause the injuries outlined. But when he reviewed the applicant’s deposition and the medical reports, he said there was no orthopedic injury as there is no correlation between claimed body parts and the documented mechanism of collapse during seizure. There is no report of orthopedic injuries while in the ambulance and the ER. It is not medically probable the consequences of the fall caused the musculoskeletal injuries. I sent him Employers Mutual v. IAC (Gideon) , 41 CA2d 676, 18 CCC 286 (1953), Harris Ranch v. WCAB (Orrala) , 77 CCC 94 (W/D-2011). He did not change his mind. Be careful what kind of cases you send to him. We are going to trial on whether his reports are substantial medical evidence. Bonnie Binder Wilson, Esq. Wilson & Wisler, LLP Attorneys at Law 21 Maple Street Salinas, California 93901 Telephone: (831) 269-3787 Facsimile: (831) 269-3783 www.doubleulaw.com *************** PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL **************** THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE TRANSMISSION IS A COMMUNICATION FROM THE LAW FIRM OF WILSON & WISLER, LLP. THIS MESSAGE CONTAINS INFORMATION PROTECTED BY THE ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE AND IS CONFIDENTIAL OR OTHERWISE THE EXCLUSIVE PROPERTY OF THE INTENDED RECIPIENT OR WILSON & WISLER, LLP. THIS INFORMATION IS SOLELY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY THAT IS THE INTENDED RECIPIENT.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message directly discusses a workers' compensation case involving an admitted orthopedic injury, with the PTP opining that the applicant's pain contributed to an ischemic attack and atrial fibrillation (afib). The message substantively involves the concept of injury — specifically an industrial injury and its alleged contribution to internal/neurological conditions. While the message is primarily a request for physician recommendations (AME panel input), it contains meaningful context about the nature of the injury and its claimed effects, making it relevant to a search for content about 'injury' in a workers' compensation context.
Hi All, I have an admitted ortho injury. PTP says based upon studies that applicant's pain contributed to her ischemic attack while also contributing to afib. He has recommended an internist and neuro. This is a City of LA case. We are required to get to an AME on their list as it is an ADR case. The internal AMEs are: 1. Dr. Stuart Kramer, 2. Dr. Paul Grodan, and 3. Dr. Harvey Alpern The neuro AMEs are: 1. Clarke D. Dspy, MD 2. Ezekiel Fink, MD 3. Robert ShorrKhaled Anees, MD I think Alpern is not great. I like Fink. Any input on these physicians would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message directly mentions a 'specific knee injury case' — an accepted workers' compensation claim involving a knee injury. The message discusses a PQME report written without medical records that resulted in a 'wipe out' finding on that accepted injury case. While the message is primarily a warning about a specific doctor (Dr. Sepehr Rejai) rather than a deep substantive discussion of injury law or doctrine, it does contain direct, substantive reference to an injury case scenario relevant to workers' compensation practice. It qualifies as substantially relevant to the keyword 'injury' in a workers' compensation legal context, though it is more of a practitioner warning than a legal analysis.
"Daniel Saban" Date: August 06, 2026 12:33:00 PM Subject: PQME Dr Sepehr Rejai Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Daniel Saban Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings For lawnet archive purposes, Dr Rejai wrote a wipe out PQME report on an accepted specific knee injury case. He wrote that report with NO medical reports since c/a failed to send initially. Dr Rejai will be an automatic strike from me in the future. Daniel Saban The Carlo Law Group San Jose
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message does contain a reference to 'injury' in the context of 8 CCR 10460, which explicitly uses the word 'injury' ('arises out of the same incident, injury or exposure'). However, the message is primarily about a procedural question regarding whether a Govt Code 21166 Finding of Fact Petition requires a new ADJ# or can proceed under the original ADJ number. The mention of 'injury' is incidental to the main topic of the message, which is about filing procedures for PERS/CalPERS findings of fact petitions. Since the real question appears to be a broad keyword search for 'injury' rather than a specific legal question about injury law, this message does contain the keyword in a legal workers' compensation context, making it at least partially relevant, though the substantive focus is on procedural ADJ filing requirements rather than injury law itself.
"Karina Delzell" Date: August 04, 2026 8:07:00 PM Subject: Govt Code 21166 Finding of Fact Petition Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Karina Delzell Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi All, I've handled a few Govt Code 21166 Finding of Fact Petitions at different boards (SAC and SRO), and I have always filed them under the same ADJ# as the underlying case without any issue. Now I have a defense attorney arguing that a new ADJ# has to be obtained and this can't proceed under the original ADJ. He is citing to 8 CCR 10460 which states: A request for findings of fact under Government Code sections 21164, 21166, 21537, 21538, 21540 or 21540.5 or under Labor Code sections 4800.5(d), 4801, 4804.2, 4807 or 4851 is a proceeding separate from a claim for workers' compensation benefits even though it arises out of the same incident, injury or exposure. The request for findings of fact shall be filed separately and a separate file folder and record of the proceeding will be maintained, but the request for findings of fact may be consolidated for hearing with a claim for workers' compensation benefits. For those who have handled these petitions before, did you need to obtain a new ADJ#? This is venued in San Francisco. Thanks! Karina Delzell Brown & Delzell
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly and substantively discusses injury-related legal issues in a California workers' compensation context. The original post by Diep Nguyen describes a situation where the defense attorney included AOE/COE questions in an AME cover letter specifically addressing whether the applicant sustained an injury, the connection between the injury and work, predominant cause of the claimed injury, and whether the injury arose out of or occurred during employment. These are core substantive legal questions about the nature and compensability of a work injury. Alan Fenton's reply advises putting objections in writing and filing for a hearing with a presiding judge. While the message is framed around a procedural dispute about an AME cover letter, the substantive content revolves around injury causation, AOE/COE analysis, and legal strategy related to a claimed work injury — all directly relevant to the keyword 'injury' in a workers' compensation legal context.
"Alan Fenton" Date: August 04, 2026 5:58:00 PM Subject: Re: DA sent out cover letter disregard of my objection. Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Alan Fenton Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Maybe trying to get out of going to that AME, put objections in writing and file for a hearing with a PP. af Alan H. Fenton, Esq. Law Offices of Alan H. Fenton, a PC 1334 Anacapa Street Santa Barbara, CA 93101 (t) 805-568-1800 (f) 805-966-7006 This message contains confidential/privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, communication, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited. Please inform us by replying. Thank You. From: Diep Nguyen (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2026 3:53 PM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: [lawnet] DA sent out cover letter disregard of my objection. List: lawnet Sent By: Diep Nguyen Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I have a bizarre situation. I have the case where defendant accepted the entire claim for all body parts applicant claims. TTD paid and we agreed to go to the AME In the DA cover letter to AME, she asked all the questions related to AOE/COE questions such as (1) applicant sustain any injury (2) Connection between applicant injury and applicant's work (3) were actual events of employment the predominant cause of the claim injury (4) Did the injury arise out of applicant's employment or occur during the course of applicant's employment. DA said these questions are needed to have the AME substantial evidence. I objected these line of four questions. DA advised me that she is going to send the cover letter out regardless of my objection and she asked me to file the DOR . This is a strange situation that never seen before. Any advise please. Diep Nguyen, Attorney At Law 1569 Lexann Avenue, Suite 110 San Jose, CA 95121 P: (408) 528 - 0151 F: (408) 528 - 0153
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message directly mentions a knee injury in the context of a workers' compensation case involving an unrepresented Raley's/Amazon employee with a denied claim. The message contains substantive reference to an injury as the central subject of the legal matter being discussed, making it relevant to the keyword search for 'injury.' However, the message is primarily a request for QME panel selection advice rather than a detailed discussion of the injury itself, which limits its depth of relevance.
"M. Hollie Rutkowski" Date: August 04, 2026 2:31:00 PM Subject: SAC Pain Management QME Panel - who to pick Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Unrepresented Raley's employee who also works for Amazon has knee injury. Denied claim. SAC Pain Management QME Panel - Who to pick from this QME Panel ? Syed Mohammad Mahmood Brian Bernhardt David Smolins Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428
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This message relates to the user's question about 'injury' by describing a specific workers' compensation case involving a head injury with resulting chronic severe migraines and possible MS. The message directly references a work-related head injury and its medical consequences, which is substantively relevant to the topic of injury in a workers' compensation context. However, the message is primarily a request for a QME referral in a neuroimmunology specialty, rather than a substantive legal discussion or answer about injury law, standards, or procedures. It provides some factual context about the nature of the injury and related medical issues, but does not deeply analyze or explain legal principles surrounding injury claims. It is partially relevant as a real-world example of an injury case with medical complexity, but does not fully answer a legal question about injury in a comprehensive way.
"Erin Scharg" Date: August 03, 2026 2:07:00 PM Subject: Neuroimmunology Eval Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Erin Scharg Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I have a case where my client has a head injury and has chronic severe migraines. There is medical evidence suggesting possible MS. QME Laura Edinger has recommended neuroimmunology evaluation. Client already had a consult with a neurologist outside of MPN prior to my representation which QME has seen. Anyone know of a QME that can evaluate this? Erin Scharg Eason & Tambornini
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly discusses a compensable injury finding by a QME and the procedural steps an applicant's attorney should take when the defense fails to act on such a finding. The message addresses what happens after a QME finds a compensable injury — including the expedited hearing route, subpoenaing the adjuster, LC 4063 obligations (10-day payment requirement), and potential sanctions/penalty petitions. This is substantively about the topic of 'injury' in the workers' compensation context, specifically compensability determinations and defense responses. However, since the real question is simply a broad keyword search for 'injury' rather than a specific legal question, the message is relevant as it contains substantive discussion of injury-related workers' compensation law and strategy, though the breadth of the keyword search makes precise relevance scoring difficult.
"Lawrence R. Whiting" Date: August 02, 2026 9:11:00 PM Subject: QME finds compensable injury. Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Lawrence R. Whiting Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings The following assumes the def has done nothing upon receipt of the report. However, it also applies if they have XX'd the QME and it still holds up. I would go to the expedited hearing route. I would subpoena the adj to attend. My only question would be "What is your reasonable medical or legal doubt as to the compensability of this injury? The following assumes the def has done nothing after receipt of the report casting doubt as to a compensable injury? See LC 4063.They have 10 days to start payments (or, assumedly, declare why they will not pay.) Strong possibility of sanctions/penalty petition. If the judge does nothing, do petition to remove or recon.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly references the concept of injury in a workers' compensation context. Specifically, the message discusses a denied claim scenario where a QME found causation, and Hollie Rutkowski explicitly states that a WCJ would need to 'find injury' at a Priority Conference rather than an Expedited Hearing. The message also discusses penalties and sanctions related to a denied claim, AOE/COE (arising out of employment/course of employment) issues, and bad faith denial — all of which are substantively tied to the determination of compensable injury. The message provides practical procedural guidance (filing DOR for MSC, Priority Conference vs. Expedited Hearing, applicable statutes LC 4061(h)(1), 4063, 4650(a) and (d), and the Farris en banc case) relevant to establishing injury and obtaining benefits after a denial. While the message does not focus exclusively on a single narrow injury question, it contains substantive legal discussion about injury determination and related remedies in California workers' compensation, making it meaningfully relevant to a broad 'injury' keyword search.
"Kimberley J. Pryor" Date: July 31, 2026 4:59:00 PM Subject: Re: PENALTIES AND SANCTIONS FOR DENIAL OF A CLAIM FOR WHICH THE QME FOUND CAUSATION? Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Kimberley J. Pryor Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I find priority conferences to be a waste of time. They take just as long get on calendar as an MSC and they give the Def an opportunity to delay for several more months to "set an MSC". I file a DOR for MSC on AOE/COE Issues and add penalties etc for bad faith denial maintenance. KJ Pryor, Esq. Patience my arse. I am doing something! -----Original Message----- From: Hollie@TCLC.org Sent: July 30, 2026 2:41:00 PM To: lawnet@lists.trialsmith.com Subject: Re: PENALTIES AND SANCTIONS FOR DENIAL OF A CLAIM FOR WHICH THE QME FOUND CAUSATION? Arthur, A Claims Administrator can deny a claim for any reason or no reason. Once it's denied you get a PQME. You have a PQME. Penalties and sanctions are per these statutes, LC 4061(h)(1), 4063 and 4650(a) and (d) and use the en banc Farris case to calculate how much you are asking for. When you file your Petitions for Penalties and/or Sanctions, of course you do not accuse the Def Atty of ignorance of the law. You accuse the Claims Administrator of ignorance of the law and slap them around with Reg 10421. You are not going to get medical treatment for a denied case at an Expedited Hearing. I don't know where in California you are getting the notion that a WCJ will overturn a denial, find injury and order medical care at an Expedited Hearing. You need a Priority Conference. Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. [ https://the-compensation-law-center.business.site/ ' The Compensation Law Center ] Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> To: "Statewide List Service" <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2026 12:23:33 PM Subject: Re: [lawnet] PENALTIES AND SANCTIONS FOR DENIAL OF A CLAIM FOR WHICH THE QME FOUND CAUSATION? List: lawnet Sent By: [ mailto:kbryant@klbryantlaw.com ' Kevin Bryant ] [ mailto:kbryant@klbryantlaw.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Blawnet%5D%20PENALTIES%20AND%20SANCTIONS%20FOR%20DENIAL%20OF%20A%20CLAIM%20FOR%20WHICH%20THE%20QME%20FOUND%20CAUSATION%3F ' Reply To Sender ] [ mailto:lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org?subject=Re%3A%20%5Blawnet%5D%20PENALTIES%20AND%20SANCTIONS%20FOR%20DENIAL%20OF%20A%20CLAIM%20FOR%20WHICH%20THE%20QME%20FOUND%20CAUSATION%3F ' Reply To List ] [ http://www.caaa.org/index.cfm?pg=search ' Search ] [ http://www.caaa.org/index.cfm?pg=listviewer&lsAction=listSettings ' Settings ] If both claims are denied in full, don't you need to file for a Priority Conference to get AOE/COE adjudicated first? Sincerely, Kevin Bryant, Esq. Law Office of Kevin L. Bryant Mailing Address: P.O. Box 1033, Citrus Heights, CA 95611 Physical Address: 1100 Melody Ln., Suite 131, Roseville, CA 95678 P: (916) 520-4322 F: (916) 520-4322 E: kbryant@klbryantlaw.com From: Arthur Csillag (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2026 12:21 PM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: [lawnet] PENALTIES AND SANCTIONS FOR DENIAL OF A CLAIM FOR WHICH THE QME FOUND CAUSATION? List: lawnet Sent By: [ mailto:acsillaglaw@gmail.com ' Arthur Csillag ] [ mailto:acsillaglaw@gmail.com?subject=Re%3A%20PENALTIES%20AND%20SANCTIONS%20FOR%20DENIAL%20OF%20A%20CLAIM%20FOR%20WHICH%20THE%20QME%20FOUND%20CAUSATION%3F ' Reply To Sender ] [ mailto:lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org?subject=Re%3A%20PENALTIES%20AND%20SANCTIONS%20FOR%20DENIAL%20OF%20A%20CLAIM%20FOR%20WHICH%20THE%20QME%20FOUND%20CAUSATION%3F ' Reply To List ] [ http://www.caaa.org/index.cfm?pg=search ' Search ] [ http://www.caaa.org/index.cfm?pg=listviewer&lsAction=listSettings ' Settings ] Hi Everyone, I have a case where UCLA and Sedgwick are denying a CT and specific ortho injury despite the physical medicine QME finding causation for both. The treating ortho has requested a PRP injection for the shoulder which the adjuster has denied based upon a denial of the claim. I intend on filing for an EH for medical treatment. Should I be requesting sanctions and/or penalties for this denial as I cannot see any reason why the claim is denied? Thank you in advance for any input, cases, regs, etc. that support penalties and/or sanctions. The DA is a nice guy and good to work with. Off the record he cannot explain the denial as well. I do not wish to seek sanctions or penalties against him but against the adjuster and/or Sedgwick. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. [ mailto:ascsillaglaw@gmail.com ' acsillaglaw@gmail.com ] Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151 T he Law Office Of Arthur Csillag strives to be conscientious about using as little paper as possible. While we cannot accept official service via fax or email, we welcome receiving all other communications via email. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email is confidential, privileged and/or may also contain attorney-client information or attorney work product. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, reliance, use, dissemination, distribution, copying or forwarding of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete all copies.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly discusses the concept of injury in a California workers' compensation context. Specifically, the message addresses finding injury (AOE/COE) in denied claims, stating that a WCJ will not 'find injury and order medical care at an Expedited Hearing' and that a Priority Conference is needed to adjudicate AOE/COE. The message also discusses penalties and sanctions related to denied claims where causation was found by a QME, which is substantively about the legal determination of injury. While the message is focused on procedural strategy rather than a comprehensive definition or analysis of 'injury,' it does contain substantive legal discussion about how injury is determined and adjudicated in California workers' compensation proceedings, making it moderately relevant to the keyword search for 'injury.'
"M. Hollie Rutkowski" Date: July 30, 2026 2:41:00 PM Subject: Re: PENALTIES AND SANCTIONS FOR DENIAL OF A CLAIM FOR WHICH THE QME FOUND CAUSATION? Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Arthur, A Claims Administrator can deny a claim for any reason or no reason. Once it's denied you get a PQME. You have a PQME. Penalties and sanctions are per these statutes, LC 4061(h)(1), 4063 and 4650(a) and (d) and use the en banc Farris case to calculate how much you are asking for. When you file your Petitions for Penalties and/or Sanctions, of course you do not accuse the Def Atty of ignorance of the law. You accuse the Claims Administrator of ignorance of the law and slap them around with Reg 10421. You are not going to get medical treatment for a denied case at an Expedited Hearing. I don't know where in California you are getting the notion that a WCJ will overturn a denial, find injury and order medical care at an Expedited Hearing. You need a Priority Conference. Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> To: "Statewide List Service" <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2026 12:23:33 PM Subject: Re: [lawnet] PENALTIES AND SANCTIONS FOR DENIAL OF A CLAIM FOR WHICH THE QME FOUND CAUSATION? List: lawnet Sent By: Kevin Bryant Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings If both claims are denied in full, don’t you need to file for a Priority Conference to get AOE/COE adjudicated first? Sincerely, Kevin Bryant, Esq. Law Office of Kevin L. Bryant Mailing Address: P.O. Box 1033, Citrus Heights, CA 95611 Physical Address: 1100 Melody Ln., Suite 131, Roseville, CA 95678 P: (916) 520-4322 F: (916) 520-4322 E: kbryant@klbryantlaw.com From: Arthur Csillag (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2026 12:21 PM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: [lawnet] PENALTIES AND SANCTIONS FOR DENIAL OF A CLAIM FOR WHICH THE QME FOUND CAUSATION? List: lawnet Sent By: Arthur Csillag Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi Everyone, I have a case where UCLA and Sedgwick are denying a CT and specific ortho injury despite the physical medicine QME finding causation for both. The treating ortho has requested a PRP injection for the shoulder which the adjuster has denied based upon a denial of the claim. I intend on filing for an EH for medical treatment. Should I be requesting sanctions and/or penalties for this denial as I cannot see any reason why the claim is denied? Thank you in advance for any input, cases, regs, etc. that support penalties and/or sanctions. The DA is a nice guy and good to work with. Off the record he cannot explain the denial as well. I do not wish to seek sanctions or penalties against him but against the adjuster and/or Sedgwick. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151 T he Law Office Of Arthur Csillag strives to be conscientious about using as little paper as possible. While we cannot accept official service via fax or email, we welcome receiving all other communications via email. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email is confidential, privileged and/or may also contain attorney-client information or attorney work product. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, reliance, use, dissemination, distribution, copying or forwarding of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete all copies.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly discusses a workers' compensation case involving a cumulative trauma (CT) injury and a specific orthopedic injury that has been denied by the employer/insurer despite a QME finding causation. The message substantively addresses legal strategies (Priority Conference vs. Expedited Hearing, sanctions) related to a denied injury claim. The term 'injury' is not merely incidentally mentioned — it is central to the entire discussion, which revolves around a disputed compensable injury and the procedural remedies available when a claim for injury is denied. A reader searching for content about 'injury' in the workers' compensation context would find substantive, relevant information here.
"Lupe Carrasco" Date: July 30, 2026 2:38:00 PM Subject: Re: PENALTIES AND SANCTIONS FOR DENIAL OF A CLAIM FOR WHICH THE QME FOUND CAUSATION? Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Guadalupe Carrasco Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings You can't file for Expedited Hearing on a denied claim. You could only do that if at least one body part was accepted. You need to file for Priority Conference first. I probably wouldn't file for sanctions either until the defendant provides more information as to their basis for the denial. It wouldn't be the first time that an adjuster withholds information from their attorney. A good PC conference judge might get the defendant to accept the case. Lupe Carrasco, Esq. EASON & TAMBORNINI, ALC 1234 H Street, Ste. 200 Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 438-1819 - main (916) 438-1820 - fax (916) 288-9149 - direct www.capcitylaw.com lupe@capcitylaw.com From: Arthur Csillag (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2026 12:21 PM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: [lawnet] PENALTIES AND SANCTIONS FOR DENIAL OF A CLAIM FOR WHICH THE QME FOUND CAUSATION? List: lawnet Sent By: Arthur Csillag Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi Everyone, I have a case where UCLA and Sedgwick are denying a CT and specific ortho injury despite the physical medicine QME finding causation for both. The treating ortho has requested a PRP injection for the shoulder which the adjuster has denied based upon a denial of the claim. I intend on filing for an EH for medical treatment. Should I be requesting sanctions and/or penalties for this denial as I cannot see any reason why the claim is denied? Thank you in advance for any input, cases, regs, etc. that support penalties and/or sanctions. The DA is a nice guy and good to work with. Off the record he cannot explain the denial as well. I do not wish to seek sanctions or penalties against him but against the adjuster and/or Sedgwick. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151 T he Law Office Of Arthur Csillag strives to be conscientious about using as little paper as possible. While we cannot accept official service via fax or email, we welcome receiving all other communications via email. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email is confidential, privileged and/or may also contain attorney-client information or attorney work product. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, reliance, use, dissemination, distribution, copying or forwarding of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete all copies.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message directly discusses workers' compensation injury claims — specifically a cumulative trauma (CT) injury and a specific orthopedic injury — in the context of a denied claim where the QME found causation. The original post by Arthur Csillag describes a case involving both a CT and specific ortho injury, a denied shoulder treatment (PRP injection), and questions about penalties and sanctions. Kevin Bryant's reply addresses procedural steps (Priority Conference for AOE/COE adjudication) relevant to denied injury claims. The message substantively involves injury-related legal issues in a California workers' compensation context, making it relevant to a broad keyword search for 'injury,' though it does not answer a specific legal question about injury — it is a case-specific discussion.
"Kevin Bryant" Date: July 30, 2026 2:24:00 PM Subject: Re: PENALTIES AND SANCTIONS FOR DENIAL OF A CLAIM FOR WHICH THE QME FOUND CAUSATION? Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Kevin Bryant Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings If both claims are denied in full, don’t you need to file for a Priority Conference to get AOE/COE adjudicated first? Sincerely, Kevin Bryant, Esq. Law Office of Kevin L. Bryant Mailing Address: P.O. Box 1033, Citrus Heights, CA 95611 Physical Address: 1100 Melody Ln., Suite 131, Roseville, CA 95678 P: (916) 520-4322 F: (916) 520-4322 E: kbryant@klbryantlaw.com From: Arthur Csillag (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2026 12:21 PM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: [lawnet] PENALTIES AND SANCTIONS FOR DENIAL OF A CLAIM FOR WHICH THE QME FOUND CAUSATION? List: lawnet Sent By: Arthur Csillag Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi Everyone, I have a case where UCLA and Sedgwick are denying a CT and specific ortho injury despite the physical medicine QME finding causation for both. The treating ortho has requested a PRP injection for the shoulder which the adjuster has denied based upon a denial of the claim. I intend on filing for an EH for medical treatment. Should I be requesting sanctions and/or penalties for this denial as I cannot see any reason why the claim is denied? Thank you in advance for any input, cases, regs, etc. that support penalties and/or sanctions. The DA is a nice guy and good to work with. Off the record he cannot explain the denial as well. I do not wish to seek sanctions or penalties against him but against the adjuster and/or Sedgwick. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151 T he Law Office Of Arthur Csillag strives to be conscientious about using as little paper as possible. While we cannot accept official service via fax or email, we welcome receiving all other communications via email. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email is confidential, privileged and/or may also contain attorney-client information or attorney work product. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, reliance, use, dissemination, distribution, copying or forwarding of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete all copies.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly involves a workers' compensation injury case — specifically a cumulative trauma (CT) and specific orthopedic injury that is being denied by the employer/insurer despite QME findings of causation. The message discusses the nature of the injury, the denial of the claim, and the attorney's strategy for seeking penalties and sanctions. While the message is primarily a question posed by the author rather than an answer providing substantive legal guidance about injuries, it does contain substantive factual and procedural content directly related to a workers' compensation injury claim, including the type of injury, the medical findings, and the dispute over causation. It is relevant to the keyword 'injury' as it centers on a denied injury claim with meaningful legal and factual detail.
Hi Everyone, I have a case where UCLA and Sedgwick are denying a CT and specific ortho injury despite the physical medicine QME finding causation for both. The treating ortho has requested a PRP injection for the shoulder which the adjuster has denied based upon a denial of the claim. I intend on filing for an EH for medical treatment. Should I be requesting sanctions and/or penalties for this denial as I cannot see any reason why the claim is denied? Thank you in advance for any input, cases, regs, etc. that support penalties and/or sanctions. The DA is a nice guy and good to work with. Off the record he cannot explain the denial as well. I do not wish to seek sanctions or penalties against him but against the adjuster and/or Sedgwick. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151 T he Law Office Of Arthur Csillag strives to be conscientious about using as little paper as possible. While we cannot accept official service via fax or email, we welcome receiving all other communications via email. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email is confidential, privileged and/or may also contain attorney-client information or attorney work product. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, reliance, use, dissemination, distribution, copying or forwarding of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete all copies.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message substantively discusses workers' compensation injury claims in multiple contexts: a foot injury at work (stress fracture) that was denied despite PQME support for industrial causation, Long COVID injuries denied by a TPA (Sedgwick), and a general pattern of UC Regents/UCSD Med Center denying clearly industrial injuries. The message contains meaningful legal discussion about injury causation disputes, industrial injury denials, PQME opinions on injury, and judicial handling of injury claims — all directly involving the concept of 'injury' in a workers' compensation context. However, since the real question is simply a broad keyword search rather than a specific legal question, the relevance is genuine but the message does not answer a precise legal question — it is a case discussion that prominently features injury-related issues.
"M. Hollie Rutkowski" Date: July 29, 2026 1:30:00 PM Subject: Re: UCSD Med Center Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings The UC Regents are a tough bunch, I grant you. I had two UCDMC cases of little value (Both female IWs) in which the Regents obtained surveillance that didn't show anything. I think by having its TPA deny injuries that are clearly industrial, their experience modification is not as high as it could be. I can tell you that Judge that I have on my UCDMC Long COVID case did not see anything was amiss when Sedgwick denied Long COVID after my client (RN) suffered two COVID infections). I can't say what I think of a Judge who agrees with Sedgwick that Long COVID is not caused by COVID. Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> To: "Statewide List Service" <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2026 12:38:39 PM Subject: [lawnet] UCSD Med Center List: lawnet Sent By: Michael Herrin Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hello, It seems that this employer has a history of denying claims that should not be denied. My client injured his foot at work in March 2025. Every doctor that has examined him, including the pqme, indicates that the injury probably occurred in the manner described by my client. My client has been cooperative in the discovery process and has been deposed. Still denied. DA sent PQME 800 pages of nothingness, including depo transcript, in April with request for a supplemental. No change in PQME's August 2025 opinion that injury is industrial. I filed DOR for PC. At the hearing, DA tied himself in a pretzel trying to explain that, in his experience, the stress fracture of my client's foot seems more likely related to a CT than a specific, so wants pqme to opine on whether client's outside employment may have contributed to the injury. All well and good but certainly no basis for denying claim. In the meantime, DA just sent pqme 1800 more pages of nothingness with request for MMI evaluation. Now they're asking whether client might be interested in C&R. They say he can continue working there if case settles by C&R. I'm sure many IW's get the denial letter and choose not to pursue. Settling claims by C&R maintains an appearance of what? Workplace safety? Because they're self-insured they can't be worried about their premiums. What is their motivation? On the day my client was injured, at work, in the middle of the day in the middle of the week, having interacted with his supervisor several times throughout the day, my client informs his supervisor that he had injured his foot walking down the stairs between floors at the hospital. The supervisor then sends a text message, that I now have, directing my client to file an incident report with the employer, informing the employer that the injury occurred outside of the workplace outside of work hours. A complete fabrication. WTF? What can I do with that piece of evidence? This smells like insurance fraud. There is a process under insurance code to pursue qui tam action. Has anyone here had any luck going down that path? Any suggestions appreciated. Mike
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly references 'mechanism of injury' in the context of discussing cumulative trauma (CT) cases and specific injuries in a workers' compensation setting. The message discusses bifurcating two cases involving different injury types (a Covid case and a CT case), the legal implications of having two CT cases covering the same time period, compensable consequences, and the impact of LC 4664(c)(1) on permanent disability limits. While the message is primarily about case strategy for bifurcating high-PD cases rather than being exclusively about the concept of 'injury,' it does substantively address injury-related legal concepts (mechanism of injury, CT vs. specific injury, compensable consequence of injury) that are relevant to someone searching for content about injury in the workers' compensation context. The relevance is substantial but not complete, as injury is one component of a broader strategic discussion.
"BretGraham" Date: July 29, 2026 5:38:00 AM Subject: Re: guidance on bifurcating 2 potential 70% or higher cases to settle one first Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Bret Graham Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Daniel - you don’t say in post if the Covid case is a CT or specific. Because if it is a CT then you would have 2 CT cases covering the same time period which would really be the same case since even with different mechanism of injury you can only have one CT at a time( You will want to research this exact point) Alternatively, it is reasonable that the Covid case was a compensable consequence of the CT. Defense is worried that the two cases will become one OR that at least one QME will say they are inextricably intertwined so you get a joint award closing in on 100%. If you are looking at a final settlement by Stips, the. For sure you need to do the math based on AWE to see how much and when two (2) 70% cases pay vs one (1) 100% case vs. one (1) 99% case. Also before settling piecemeal, consider impact of LC 4664(c)(1) and its lifetime limits of 100% PD on various body parts/systems. Haven’t seen defense use it as much as they could and it could be a nasty surprise for sure. Bret Graham Sent from my iPhone
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly discusses a denied back injury case involving a truck driver with a disk bulge and radiculopathy. The message contains substantive discussion of an injury claim, including the nature of the injury, its severity, and the medical and legal proceedings surrounding it. While the message is primarily focused on QME doctor evaluations (Dr. Yasmeh and Dr. Solhpour) and recommendations about who to strike from an ortho panel, the injury itself is central to the discussion and described in meaningful detail. A reader searching for content about 'injury' would find substantive information here about a specific workers' compensation injury case and how it was handled medically and legally.
"Alexander Blackford" Date: July 28, 2026 4:48:00 PM Subject: Re: ortho panel Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: scaaa Sent By: Alexander Blackford Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I realize this is a little late for this particular panel, but... I recently (last three months) used Dr. Yasmeh for a QME-requested surgical consult based on CAAA reviews that said he was, well, not bad, and he seemed like the best on a list of all bad. The claim was a denied back injury for a truck driver with a 6-7mm disk bulge and radiculopathy so bad the client was bedridden for a year and needs a cane to walk. And to top it off, we had already been to trial with applicant testimony that supported this without contradiction and the trial MOH and findings were provided. Dr. Yasmeh said NO surgery necessary, only conservative care. Thankfully, the QME, Dr. Shahram Shawn Solhpour ignored him and said surgery should be provided for. So, a firm "don't let the door hit you on the way out" for Dr. Yasmeh. But a "yes, I would buy a drink" for Dr. Solhpour (but only after the claim settled to avoid any appearance of impropriety). -----Original Message----- From: james.malkin@gsscomplaw.com Sent: October 09, 2025 11:29:00 AM To: scaaa@lists.trialsmith.com Subject: ortho panel Any information on who to strike: Scott Lee, MD Siamak Yasmeh,MD
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly and substantively discusses a workplace injury case in detail. The message describes a client who injured his foot at work (a stress fracture), the circumstances of the injury, the employer's denial of the claim, PQME opinions confirming industrial injury, and strategic/procedural issues surrounding the case. The message is rich with content about a specific injury claim, making it directly relevant to a search for discussions involving workplace injury. However, since the real question is a broad keyword search rather than a specific legal question seeking a particular answer, the relevance is solid but not at the highest confidence level, as the message is more of a case-specific narrative seeking input rather than providing a definitive legal answer or principle about injuries.
"Michael Herrin" Date: July 28, 2026 2:39:00 PM Subject: UCSD Med Center Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Michael Herrin Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hello, It seems that this employer has a history of denying claims that should not be denied. My client injured his foot at work in March 2025. Every doctor that has examined him, including the pqme, indicates that the injury probably occurred in the manner described by my client. My client has been cooperative in the discovery process and has been deposed. Still denied. DA sent PQME 800 pages of nothingness, including depo transcript, in April with request for a supplemental. No change in PQME's August 2025 opinion that injury is industrial. I filed DOR for PC. At the hearing, DA tied himself in a pretzel trying to explain that, in his experience, the stress fracture of my client's foot seems more likely related to a CT than a specific, so wants pqme to opine on whether client's outside employment may have contributed to the injury. All well and good but certainly no basis for denying claim. In the meantime, DA just sent pqme 1800 more pages of nothingness with request for MMI evaluation. Now they're asking whether client might be interested in C&R. They say he can continue working there if case settles by C&R. I'm sure many IW's get the denial letter and choose not to pursue. Settling claims by C&R maintains an appearance of what? Workplace safety? Because they're self-insured they can't be worried about their premiums. What is their motivation? On the day my client was injured, at work, in the middle of the day in the middle of the week, having interacted with his supervisor several times throughout the day, my client informs his supervisor that he had injured his foot walking down the stairs between floors at the hospital. The supervisor then sends a text message, that I now have, directing my client to file an incident report with the employer, informing the employer that the injury occurred outside of the workplace outside of work hours. A complete fabrication. WTF? What can I do with that piece of evidence? This smells like insurance fraud. There is a process under insurance code to pursue qui tam action. Has anyone here had any luck going down that path? Any suggestions appreciated. Mike
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly discusses a workers' compensation death benefit case involving a work-related injury (a fatal motor vehicle accident) and the legal issues surrounding intoxication as a defense. The message explicitly references 'injury' in a substantive legal context — specifically discussing the two-prong intoxication defense under California workers' compensation law, where the second prong requires that 'the intoxication proximately caused the injury.' The message provides practical legal strategy advice about how the burden of proof works in intoxication defense cases. While the message is focused on a specific fact pattern (cocaine in a decedent's system in a death benefit case), it substantively discusses injury causation and the intoxication defense framework, which are directly relevant to the keyword 'injury' in a California workers' compensation legal context. However, since 'injury' is a very broad keyword and this message addresses only one narrow scenario involving injury causation in an intoxication defense context, confidence is moderate rather than high.
"M. Hollie Rutkowski" Date: July 27, 2026 2:03:00 PM Subject: Re: Death Benefit Case - the decedent died in a car accident that he caused - and he had cocaine in his system Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings If the MVA was definitely industrial and Def/DA knows it's industrial, then the last thing I would worry about as AA is responding to Def burden to prove intoxication -prong 2: the intoxicati on proximately caused the injury . Perhaps the specifics of the MVA might suggest intoxication? Did Dc'd drive 95 mph into a wall or have the cocaine in his lap or something? Let DA start trying to prove intoxication. You just sit back and wait. Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> To: "Statewide List Service" <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2026 11:30:32 AM Subject: [lawnet] Death Benefit Case - the decedent died in a car accident that he caused - and he had cocaine in his system List: lawnet Sent By: Rando Rodriguez Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings This is a first for me. I have a death benefit case wherein the decedent was in a car accident (caused by the decedent - the decedent was pronounced dead at the scene of the accident) and I have now received an autopsy report indicating that the decedent had cocaine in his system at the time of the car accident. If the defense contends that the decedent's cocaine use caused the car accident, does that require a med-legal determination from a PQME (I assume one who specializes in Toxicology)? Can the defense hire their own toxicology expert and argue that the report should be sent to the PQME? Rando
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message does contain a direct reference to a work-related injury — specifically, a cumulative heart injury (100 percent permanent disability resulting from a cumulative heart injury over the period 11/1/97 through 11/1/2010) sustained by an applicant/correctional officer. However, the primary substantive focus of the message is on attorney's fees, commutation methodology, and SAWW/COLA adjustments under Labor Code § 4659(c), rather than on the nature, causation, or legal treatment of the injury itself. The mention of 'injury' is incidental to the main legal discussion. Since the real question is simply a keyword search for 'injury' rather than a specific legal question about injury law, the message qualifies as relevant because it contains the keyword in a substantive legal context, though the injury is not the central topic of the message.
"M. Hollie Rutkowski" Date: July 27, 2026 12:07:00 PM Subject: Re: Memory Fail - Seminar about IR failing to add SAWW amounts annually. Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings How about these: Atty’s Fees, SAWW, COLA, and Commutation 2013 Darryl Oyas, Applicant v. California State Department of Corrections, State Compensation Insurance Fund, Defendants , 2013 Cal. Wrk. Comp. P.D. LEXIS 174 (lexis.com), 2013 Cal. Wrk. Comp. P.D. LEXIS 174 (Lexis Advance) Attorney’s Fees--Commutation--WCAB rescinded WCJ’s 15 percent attorney’s fee award to attorney for applicant/correctional officer who incurred 100 percent permanent disability as a result of cumulative heart injury over period 11/1/97 through 11/1/2010, and returned matter to trial level, when WCAB found that (1) in making award, WCJ improperly conflated determination of what percentage of applicant’s permanent total disability award should be paid to his attorney as a reasonable fee with whether commuted value of applicant’s award should include future state average weekly wage (SAWW) increase to which applicant would be entitled under Labor Code § 4659(c), (2 ) WCJ should have exercised his discretion in determining reasonable value of applicant’s attorney’s efforts after he had determined appropriate calculation of applicant’s award , (3) while determination of annual SAWW increases may not be certain, it should not preclude WCJ from relying upon Disability Evaluation Unit’s commutation calculation which factor in COLAs in Labor Code § 4659(c), and (4) upon return to trial level, WCJ should utilize Uniform Increasing Reduction method in commuting present value of applicant’s award of permanent total disability as this method of commutation is preferred by applicant and provides greatest benefit, WCJ should first determine proper commuted value of applicant’s permanent disability award, incorporating a reasonable SAWW adjustment factor, and then determine proper percentage of award payable to applicant’s attorney, and, when making a determination regarding attorney’s fees, WCJ should consider relevant factors set forth in Policy and Procedures Manual, such as responsibility assumed by attorney, care exercised in representing applicant, time involved and results obtained. Glick v. Swift Transportation Services, LLC , ADJ11799924 (VNO) Oct. 17, 2023, Decision After Reconsideration 51 CWCR 213 Remand for Judge to Reconsider SAWW’s Role in Commutation Calculation PTD Award Failed to Account for SAWW in Setting Applicant’s Attorney Fee Board Panel Remands for Clarification of Whether DEU Commutation Considered SAWW Increases and the Inclusion of Evidence and Reasoning for the Decision Commissioners Schmitz (Deputy), Capurro, and Razo granted the attorney’s petition for reconsideration, affirmed the WCJ’s operative F&A (except by restating amounts, the start date, and other details in the PTD award), and deferred attorney fee issues for remand to the judge. The panel observed that the basis for calculation of the applicant’s attorney fee had not been “framed with specificity at the time of trial,” and had not addressed the “interaction, if any, between the statutorily mandated present value reduction [per §5101(b)], and the inclusion of SAWW adjustments” in the attorney fee calculations. The panel further asked the parties and judge to consider the “public policy considerations” of granting SAWW adjustments to applicant attorney fees. The panel noted that any question of whether the attorney had given applicant the required notice of a possible conflict of interest had been resolved by applicant’s later signed, written waiver of any claim to such a conflict. On fee commutation questions, the panel noted applicant’s contention that an award of PD indemnity should reflect an “annual increase . . . as set by the annual SAWW figures,” and that it would be error for the trial judge to include the SAWW adjustments in the award but not in calculating the amount of a commuted award. The attorney cited the panel decision, Gilmore v. Autoland Resale Center (Apr. 17, 2013, ADJ4677964 (VNO)), as holding it reasonable to allow “a fee on the entire present value of the 100% permanent disability award, including the COLA increases.” COLA adjustments . . . “ensure that a dollar tomorrow is equal to a dollar today . . . and not an additional benefit to applicant.” The panel then noted that the WCJ’s report on reconsideration cited Miramontes v. Lions Raisins (February 3, 2012, ADJ2777203 (SRO)) for the view that a “commutation of unknown future COLA adjustment was not in applicant’s best interests.” That case further stated that a commutation should be based solely on the “present value of the life pension award.” The purpose of cost of living (COLA) adjustments to applicant’s benefits was to “ensure that a dollar tomorrow is equal to a dollar today. It is simply a hedge against inflation and not an additional benefit to applicant.” The judge further noted that applicant’s counsel receives a fee on the full value of benefits applicant receives bi-weekly for the duration of his life. To award a SAWW increase on top of that fee, the WCJ argued, would be “tantamount to an investment on the value of that money for years to come at a 3% or 4.33% return.” The WCJ characterized what applicant’s attorney was asking for was to be “paid today with the value of what today’s dollar will be worth in the future,” and that applicant would bear the burden of “financing” that investment. The present Board panel noted that the record was not clear as to how the commutation here had been made, and that §5101(b) mandates that a lump sum amount requires that the “sum be reduced to present value” at the “interest rate of 3 percent per annum.” As for the commutation performed by the DEU, the panel observed that the rater issued an attorney fee calculation, commuting all remaining life pensions after their commencement using a 3 percent SAWW, apparently applying the “statutorily required 3 percent present value discount irrespective of any SAWW adjustment,” something the panel was unclear had been considered by the attorney or the judge. Accordingly, the Board panel affirmed the award and deferred the issue of attorney fees for further proceedings at the trial level, and encouraged the parties to “explore the possibility of amicable settlement” or else to crossexamine the DEU rater to further develop the record on the “interaction, if any, between the statutorily mandated present value reduction set forth in section 5101, and the inclusion of SAWW adjustments per section 4659(c) in the calculation of attorney’s fees.” Editor’s Note: Apart from calculating accurate sums for the attorney fee award in a PTD case, the issue raised is one of public policy. The judge (1) asks if an applicant’s attorney should receive a fee from benefits meant as a hedge against inflation for a seriously or completely disabled worker? (2) and sees his role as protecting the injured worker. Is that completely justified? There are seemingly a growing number of PTD claims being made and many applicant attorneys deal with multiple complex issues in achieving a PTD award. That suggests a reason that attorneys should receive a fee for a portion of all the applicant will get, including cost of living adjustments. It is difficult to imagine how the record will be augmented to satisfy the Board and is perhaps the reason the panel urged the parties and judge to reach an “amicable settlement.” The panel also notes that §5101(b) and related AD Rules 10169 and 10169.1, in setting forth present value calculations, do not take into account cost of living adjustments required by §4659(c). Should the case generate further litigation, the judge and parties will need to keep this in mind. Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> To: "Statewide List Service" <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2026 10:00:39 AM Subject: Re: [lawnet] Memory Fail - Seminar about IR failing to add SAWW amounts annually. List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Thank you Hollie But what about a carrier who simply does not increase the PTD in accordance with the annual SAWW increases? Mike In a message dated 7/27/2026 9:23:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org writes: List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings This is the law porion of the Rader case - Rader v. Ticketmaster Corp., care of Robert Monroe; State Comp. Ins. Fund, ADJ7138762 (VNO), Mar. 17, 2025, Opinion Granting Reconsideration 53 CWCR 41: The issue . . . is whether a reduction in PD indemnity relating to attorney fees falls within the Board’s jurisdiction over prior orders. According to Hodge v. WCAB (1981) 123 CA3d 50, 9 CWCR 204, 46 CCC 1034, “collateral changes” may be made to an award as long as the “merits of the basic decision” were not altered, nor the amount of benefits. The present panel notes that Hodge allowed a credit to an employer after a subsequent civil lawsuit was finalized relating to medical treatment applicant had obtained for his industrial injury more than five years after the injury date. The present panel further discussed Garcia v. IAC (1958) 162 CA2d 761, 23 CCC 149, in which a lien for attorney’s fees was permitted when new attorneys were substituted more than five years after the date of injury and successfully assisted an injured worker in resisting a petition to reopen filed by the Subsequent Injuries Fund (now Subsequent Injuries Benefits Trust Fund). The present commissioners reasoned the issue for them to decide is whether a reduction in PD indemnity relating to attorney fees falls within the Board’s jurisdiction over prior orders or if it is “tantamount to an alteration or amendment of the Award more than five years from the date of injury.” Further, assuming jurisdiction, the issue becomes whether the credit for the commutation relating to attorney fees “precludes further reduction in applicant’s current [PD] payment for attorney fees.” Accordingly, the Board panel granted applicant’s reconsideration petition, while ordering that a final decision after reconsideration be deferred pending further review of the merits of the petition and of the entire record in light of the applicable statutory and decisional law. Editor’s Note: It is unclear why the panel felt the need for deferral of a final decision, as there did not appear to be any added evidence needed to determine whether the fee should be terminated. It would seem to be a question of law and not of fact. The final decision over these open-ended fee situations will be of great interest to the compensation community. A practical solution might be the statement in a stipulated settlement that the attorney fees awarded are to terminate when their calculated payment comes to an end or when applicant is no longer entitled to PD payments, whichever i s sooner. Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> To: "Statewide List Service" <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2026 10:50:05 AM Subject: Re: [lawnet] Memory Fail - Seminar about IR failing to add SAWW amounts annually. List: lawnet Sent By: Karina Delzell Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I think you’re looking for RADER V. TICKETMASTER CORPORATION (2025) 2025 CAL. WRK. COMP. P.D. LEXIS 86 Karina Kowler Delzell Brown & Delzell, LLP Certified Specialist in Workers' Compensation Law 999 Fifth Avenue, Suite 430 San Rafael, CA 94901 415-925-9212 From: Mike Richter (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2026 9:53 AM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: [lawnet] Memory Fail - Seminar about IR failing to add SAWW amounts annually. List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hey All I'm having a memory fail. At what conference did we learn about how to penalize a carrier for failing to increase the annual SAWW amounts in a case with a total disability award? I've been looking and haven't been able to find it. When was that? It was a great program though. Mike Richter Campbell
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message does contain substantive discussion referencing injury in a legal context. Specifically, Hollie Rutkowski's portion of the thread references LC §4551(c), which addresses serious and willful (S&W) misconduct claims and notes that employee S&W does not apply 'when the injury was caused by the failure of the employer to comply with any provision of law, or any safety order of the Division of Occupational Safety and Health.' This is a direct legal discussion about workplace injury causation and how it affects S&W misconduct claims in California workers' compensation. The message provides substantive legal content about injury-related statutes and defenses. However, the relevance is somewhat limited because 'injury' is not the central focus of the thread — the primary topic is the procedural strategy around filing a reverse S&W misconduct claim — so the injury discussion is contextual rather than the main subject.
"Andy Katz" Date: July 24, 2026 10:43:00 PM Subject: Re: reverse SW misconduct claim? Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Andy Katz Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Agree with coordinating with the civil case attorney. However, I don’t see the harm of having it on file, close to the end of the SOL, though I’m assuming that Defendant cannot bootstrap their adverse theory against the Applicant using her Petition. If you file a Petition but they don’t, then it’s waived. The Petition can sit until the recoverable amount is clear, and can be abandoned if a premature DOR or specific written discovery (rare) comes across. On Jul 24, 2026, at 10:02 AM, Hollie Rutkowski (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> wrote: List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings S&W by Employee does not apply when the injury was caused by the failure of the employer to comply with any provision of law, or any safety order of the Division of Occupational Safety and Health, with reference to the safety of places of employment; LC §4551(c). That is, unless she was a manager. Having OSHA certificates/training and knowledge doesn't mean she had the authority to stop doing the same activities she had always done knowing they were inherently dangerous but never having been instructed by her manager not to do them. Anyway, couldn't you file S&W on the very last day before it is time barred? Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > To: "Statewide List Service" < lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2026 9:42:43 AM Subject: [lawnet] reverse SW misconduct claim? List: lawnet Sent By: Daniel Chin Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi All - I was thinking of filing an SW misconduct claim but the thought of a potential reverse claim has stopped me in my tracks. My client worked in traffic control. She was standing in the back/bed of a stake truck, standing and receiving traffic cones from a co-worker on street level while the truck was driving. This truck was not compliant for traffic control because it lacked safety measures such as safety lights to caution the public. Sure enough, a car rear ended the truck and she sustained injuries. My client claims she knows the truck was not safety compliant because she herself has the OSHA certificates/training and knowledge. Despite knowing this, she still got in the truck bed to work. Would this knowledge defeat an SW Misconduct claim and potentially give rise to a reverse SW claim against my client? Thanks!
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"Brian A. Grafstrom" Date: July 24, 2026 5:51:00 PM Subject: Re: VIOLENT ACT EXCEPTION - WOULD YOU ASK THE AME TO ADDRESS IT? Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Brian Grafstrom Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings This feels like a direct Psyche injury, not a compensable consequence injury. From: Arthur Csillag (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2026 2:28 PM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: [lawnet] VIOLENT ACT EXCEPTION - WOULD YOU ASK THE AME TO ADDRESS IT? List: lawnet Sent By: Arthur Csillag Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi everyone, I have a compensable consequence psyche claim arising from a significant orthopedic injury. The applicant's supervisor was holding an approximately 200-pound manhole cover with a lifting hook while the applicant guided it into position. The cover slipped off the hook, fell about a foot, and crushed the applicant's arm. He sustained a ruptured distal biceps tendon requiring surgery, a shoulder injury, severe scarring and reported believing at the time that he was going to lose his arm. It was quite traumatic. There is an psyche MMI exam and psyche AME exam coming up shortly. As I understand it - Labor Code section 4660.1 generally precludes permanent psychiatric impairment when it is a compensable consequence of a physical injury unless an exception applies. My question is this : In a case with these facts, would you write to the treating psychiatrist and AME asking the physician to discuss whether the incident medically supports the violent act exception under section 4660.1(c)(2)? Or would you avoid asking the doctor to address the legal exception directly, on the ground that it is ultimately a legal determination for the WCJ? Instead, would you ask the physician to describe the severity of the force involved, the applicant's perception of the event (including his belief that he might lose his arm), whether the event was psychologically traumatic, and whether those circumstances are medically significant? My thought is that this would provide the WCJ with the factual and medical foundation necessary to determine whether the violent act exception applies, without asking the physician to render a legal conclusion. Has anyone handled this issue before, and if so, how did you approach it? Thank you for your input. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message directly and substantively discusses injury-related content in a workers' compensation context: it addresses a physical injury (ruptured distal biceps tendon, shoulder injury, severe scarring from a crushed arm) and a compensable consequence psyche claim arising from that injury. The message also references a legal distinction between a 'direct injury' versus a 'compensable consequence,' and cites a case (madson_russell ptsd separate injury.pdf) relevant to PTSD as a separate injury under the violent act exception. The message contains meaningful substantive discussion of injury classification and legal strategy, making it genuinely relevant to a search focused on 'injury' in the workers' compensation legal context.
"Bonnie Wilson" Date: July 24, 2026 5:19:00 PM Subject: Re: VIOLENT ACT EXCEPTION - WOULD YOU ASK THE AME TO ADDRESS IT? Reply to list Reply to sender Print Attachments: madson_russell ptsd separate injury.pdf (774 K) List: lawnet Sent By: Bonnie Binder-Wilson Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings This is the case you need. It is a direct injury, not a compensable consequence. Yes, I would ask it. But use the language in this case. Bonnie Binder Wilson, Esq. Wilson & Wisler, LLP Attorneys at Law 21 Maple Street Salinas, California 93901 Telephone: (831) 269-3787 Facsimile: (831) 269-3783 www.doubleulaw.com *************** PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL **************** THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE TRANSMISSION IS A COMMUNICATION FROM THE LAW FIRM OF WILSON & WISLER, LLP. THIS MESSAGE CONTAINS INFORMATION PROTECTED BY THE ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE AND IS CONFIDENTIAL OR OTHERWISE THE EXCLUSIVE PROPERTY OF THE INTENDED RECIPIENT OR WILSON & WISLER, LLP. THIS INFORMATION IS SOLELY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY THAT IS THE INTENDED RECIPIENT. From: Arthur Csillag (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2026 2:28 PM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: [lawnet] VIOLENT ACT EXCEPTION - WOULD YOU ASK THE AME TO ADDRESS IT? List: lawnet Sent By: Arthur Csillag Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi everyone, I have a compensable consequence psyche claim arising from a significant orthopedic injury. The applicant's supervisor was holding an approximately 200-pound manhole cover with a lifting hook while the applicant guided it into position. The cover slipped off the hook, fell about a foot, and crushed the applicant's arm. He sustained a ruptured distal biceps tendon requiring surgery, a shoulder injury, severe scarring and reported believing at the time that he was going to lose his arm. It was quite traumatic. There is an psyche MMI exam and psyche AME exam coming up shortly. As I understand it - Labor Code section 4660.1 generally precludes permanent psychiatric impairment when it is a compensable consequence of a physical injury unless an exception applies. My question is this : In a case with these facts, would you write to the treating psychiatrist and AME asking the physician to discuss whether the incident medically supports the violent act exception under section 4660.1(c)(2)? Or would you avoid asking the doctor to address the legal exception directly, on the ground that it is ultimately a legal determination for the WCJ? Instead, would you ask the physician to describe the severity of the force involved, the applicant's perception of the event (including his belief that he might lose his arm), whether the event was psychologically traumatic, and whether those circumstances are medically significant? My thought is that this would provide the WCJ with the factual and medical foundation necessary to determine whether the violent act exception applies, without asking the physician to render a legal conclusion. Has anyone handled this issue before, and if so, how did you approach it? Thank you for your input. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly and substantively discusses a workers' compensation case involving a significant physical injury — specifically a crushed arm resulting in a ruptured distal biceps tendon, shoulder injury, severe scarring, and psychological trauma. The message describes the mechanism of injury, the nature and severity of the physical harm, and the resulting compensable consequence psyche claim. It also discusses Labor Code section 4660.1 and the violent act exception as it relates to psychiatric impairment arising from a physical injury. The message is rich with injury-related content, including the traumatic circumstances, the applicant's perception of the event, and the medical and legal framework for evaluating psychiatric impairment stemming from the injury. This provides substantive information relevant to the topic of 'injury' in a California workers' compensation context.
Hi everyone, I have a compensable consequence psyche claim arising from a significant orthopedic injury. The applicant's supervisor was holding an approximately 200-pound manhole cover with a lifting hook while the applicant guided it into position. The cover slipped off the hook, fell about a foot, and crushed the applicant's arm. He sustained a ruptured distal biceps tendon requiring surgery, a shoulder injury, severe scarring and reported believing at the time that he was going to lose his arm. It was quite traumatic. There is an psyche MMI exam and psyche AME exam coming up shortly. As I understand it - Labor Code section 4660.1 generally precludes permanent psychiatric impairment when it is a compensable consequence of a physical injury unless an exception applies. My question is this : In a case with these facts, would you write to the treating psychiatrist and AME asking the physician to discuss whether the incident medically supports the violent act exception under section 4660.1(c)(2)? Or would you avoid asking the doctor to address the legal exception directly, on the ground that it is ultimately a legal determination for the WCJ? Instead, would you ask the physician to describe the severity of the force involved, the applicant's perception of the event (including his belief that he might lose his arm), whether the event was psychologically traumatic, and whether those circumstances are medically significant? My thought is that this would provide the WCJ with the factual and medical foundation necessary to determine whether the violent act exception applies, without asking the physician to render a legal conclusion. Has anyone handled this issue before, and if so, how did you approach it? Thank you for your input. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly involves a workers' compensation injury scenario. The message describes a client who sustained injuries when a car rear-ended a truck she was standing in while working in traffic control. The message discusses the circumstances of the injury, the safety violations involved, and the legal implications (serious and willful misconduct claims). While the message is primarily asking a question rather than answering one — it is a query posted to the listserv seeking guidance — it does substantively describe an injury scenario with relevant legal context (OSHA compliance, assumption of risk, SW misconduct). It is relevant to the keyword 'injury' in that it presents a concrete workplace injury situation with legal analysis, though it provides no definitive answers or legal conclusions about injury law.
Hi All - I was thinking of filing an SW misconduct claim but the thought of a potential reverse claim has stopped me in my tracks. My client worked in traffic control. She was standing in the back/bed of a stake truck, standing and receiving traffic cones from a co-worker on street level while the truck was driving. This truck was not compliant for traffic control because it lacked safety measures such as safety lights to caution the public. Sure enough, a car rear ended the truck and she sustained injuries. My client claims she knows the truck was not safety compliant because she herself has the OSHA certificates/training and knowledge. Despite knowing this, she still got in the truck bed to work. Would this knowledge defeat an SW Misconduct claim and potentially give rise to a reverse SW claim against my client? Thanks!
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly and substantively discusses workers' compensation injury law in California. Specifically, it addresses the application of Labor Code section 5402's presumption of compensability as it relates to accepted injuries versus disputed body parts, citing multiple cases (Puc-Perez, Santa Fe Energy, Clark, Swope, Garcia). The message provides detailed legal analysis about how 'injury' is defined and treated under LC 5402 — distinguishing between denial of an industrial injury entirely versus disputing the nature and extent of injury. Since the real question is simply a keyword search for 'injury,' this message is substantively relevant as it centers on legal principles governing workplace injury compensability, body part disputes, and the 90-day denial rule. A reader would gain meaningful legal insight about injury-related workers' compensation law from this message.
Because the specific injury to the right hand was accepted, the entire case is not presumed compensable merely because the carrier failed to deny the neck, shoulder, or other additional body parts within 90 days of the amended Application. The re are several cases which address this issue, i.e., Puc-Perez v. WCAB (1999) 64 CCC 595 ; Santa Fe Energy Resources v. WCAB (Matney) (1999) 64 CCC 1428 ; Clark v. WCAB (2001) 66 CCC 269 ; and Swope v. WCAB (2003) 68 CCC 1525 . In another case on this issue, i.e., Garcia v. White Apron 2012 Cal. Wrk. Comp. P.D. LEXIS 575, the WCAB panel held, " The presumption of compensability in section 5402, subdivision (b) applies to circumstances where an employer has knowledge of 'an injury' and does not timely reject liability for 'the injury.'" Amending an application is not a new claim for the purpose of denial per 5402 when defendant has already accepted the injury and the amendment is made to add other body parts. (Citations.) "In other words, section 5402 applies to a claim of injury and not to parts of body." All of these cases stand for the proposition that the presumption under LC 5402 “only applies when the employer seeks to deny industrial injury entirely” and does not require denial of each disputed body part within 90 days of the allegation after the underlying injury has been accepted. These authorities also distinguish between denying the occurrence of an industrial injury and disputing the nature and extent of that injury. Once the hand injury was accepted, the carrier could still challenge whether the same incident also caused injury to the neck, shoulder, or other body parts. Adding those body parts to the Application does not start a new 90-day period under Labor Code section 5402. The QME report may provide substantial medical evidence supporting those additional body parts, but it does not make them automatically compensable. The defendant may challenge the QME’s conclusions, seek clarification, or take the QME’s deposition. The compensability of those body parts ultimately remains an issue for the WCAB unless defendant stipulates to their compensability. As for the next step, I would request an expedited hearing rather than a priority conference if there remains an immediate dispute over medical treatment for the neck. When injury to at least one body part has been accepted, an expedited hearing may be requested concerning medical treatment or temporary disability involving a disputed body part. A priority conference is generally directed toward disputes over employment or whether an injury arose out of and occurred in the course of employment. Here, you said the injury itself is admitted; thus, I would think that the dispute concerns additional body parts and treatment. The judge may still redesignate the expedited hearing as an MSC if the causation issues require a m ore in depth evidentiary record. I would not rely on an “untimely denial” argument under section 5402. I would instead proceed on the existing QME opinion, the defendant’s failure to process the RFA properly, and the merits of industrial causation for the neck and other disputed body parts. Best of luck, Darin Powell -- Mitchell & Powell A Professional Law Corp. (Phone) 559.733.9898 / 559.733.5655 (Fax) www.mitchellandpowell.com
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly and substantively discusses a workers' compensation injury case. The message addresses a specific injury (admitted right hand injury from 2024) with additional body parts identified by a QME (neck, shoulder, right upper extremity), timeliness of claim denial for additional body parts, compensability assumptions, treatment disputes involving a spinal cord stimulator, and procedural next steps. The message contains substantial legal discussion about injury-related issues in a workers' compensation context, including the nature and extent of injury disputes, untimely denials, and body part coverage — all directly pertaining to the concept of 'injury' in workers' compensation law. While the keyword search is broad, this message is substantively about injury claims and their legal handling, making it genuinely relevant.
"Karen Steinitz" Date: July 23, 2026 1:09:00 PM Subject: Re: Urgent! At Expedited Hearing Now Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Karen Steinitz Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Thank you my friends to all who responded. The Judge indicated he will rule in my favor today for the treatment issue because they did not put the RFA through UR. Instead, DA sent a letter that they would not submit it to UR because the treatment was for a disputed body part and separately issued a denial for only that body part. Until several weeks ago, I did not know they were denying (the neck). (original injury is hand). The defendant approved a spinal cord stimulator trial but decided to deny the permanent implant. However, is my next step to file for a priority conference? If I can argue the denial was untimely, I'd like to move forward before the depo the QME. Any advice is appreciated and I thank you for your quick responses! Karen Shrita Steinitz Galine Frye Fitting & Frangos ____________________________ Hello Friends, I have a question about timeliness claim denial for additional body parts? This is an admitted specific injury to the right hand from 2024. Before we represented applicant, she went to a QME in July of 2025 who found additional body parts to the neck, shoulder, right upper extremity etc. Applicant began treatment we came on the case in January of 2026 and filed an opening application alleging all of the body parts. No denial was issued until 6 months later. Denial states that insurance company is only accepting the right hand and everything else is denied. Defendant is now challenging the nature and extent of the injury even though we have a QME from one year ago. Is the entire case assumed compensable & and is the denial untimely? Thank you friends, Karen Steinitz Galine Frye Fitting & Frangos
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly discusses a workers' compensation scenario involving disputed body parts connected to an injury. The message provides substantive legal guidance about waiver of objection when a PTP links disputed body parts to the injury and the defense fails to issue a timely 4062 objection. While the message is brief and context-specific (responding to an expedited hearing situation), it does address the concept of injury causation and body part disputes in a meaningful way that relates to the keyword 'injury' in a workers' compensation context. However, since 'injury' is an extremely broad keyword and this message addresses only a narrow procedural aspect (waiver of 4062 objection), the relevance is substantial but not comprehensive.
If the PTP mentioned the disputed body parts and connected them to the injury and the defense did not issue a timely 4062 objection then you can argue defense waived their objection.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly discusses a workers' compensation scenario involving a disputed body part connected to an injury. The message provides substantive legal guidance about waiver of objection when the Primary Treating Physician (PTP) links disputed body parts to the injury and the defense fails to issue a timely 4062 objection. This is directly relevant to the topic of injury in a workers' compensation context, offering actionable legal strategy. However, since the 'real question' is essentially a broad keyword search rather than a specific legal question, the message is relevant as it substantively discusses injury-related legal issues, though it addresses a narrow procedural point rather than a comprehensive answer to any specific injury question.
If the PTP mentioned the disputed body parts and connected them to the injury and the defense did not issue a timely 4062 objection then you can argue defense waived their objection.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly discusses a workers' compensation injury case — specifically an admitted specific injury with disputed body parts. The message provides substantive legal guidance on how to handle compensability of body parts at an Expedited Hearing, including strategies involving QME reports, prior treatment approvals, and client testimony to establish causation. The message is substantively about a workplace injury claim and the legal process surrounding it, making it relevant to a broad keyword search for 'injury' in a workers' compensation legal context. However, since 'injury' is a very broad keyword rather than a specific legal question, the confidence is moderate — the message is clearly about an injury matter but may or may not address the specific aspect of 'injury' the user is interested in.
I don't know that there's a specific rule requiring accepting or denying body parts after a claim is already accepted. You're at an Expedited, the judge can determine body parts at the hearing. If carrier is accepting some parts of body and denying others, show that they've previously approved treatment to the disputed parts of body prior to the App being filed (assuming they did). If they didn't approve treatment to the disputed parts of body, and you believe your QME report holds up on causation to those disputed body parts, submit for the Judge to find compensable body parts based on the QME and have your client testify to cement the analysis. If DA wants to go to trial on body parts in the face of a compensable QME report, seems like a very uphill battle for them. Eman Yazdchi, Esq. Yazdchi Law, P.C. 1125 W Avenue M-14, Suite A Palmdale, CA 93551 661-273-1780 main 661-273-2738 fax CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it, constitute an electronic communication within the scope of the Electronic Communication Privacy Act, 18 USCA 2510. This communication may contain non-public, confidential or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated recipient (s). The unlawful interception, use or disclosure of such information is strictly prohibited under 18 USCA 2511 and any applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this communication, including attachments, without reading them or saving them to disk. Thank you. On Jul 23, 2026, at 10:24 AM, Karen Steinitz (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> wrote: List: lawnet Sent By: Karen Steinitz Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hello Friends, I have a question about timeliness claim denial for additional body parts? This is an admitted specific injury to the right hand from 2024. Before we represented applicant, she went to a QME in July of 2025 who found additional body parts to the neck, shoulder, right upper extremity etc. Applicant began treatment we came on the case in January of 2026 and filed an opening application alleging all of the body parts. No denial was issued until 6 months later. Denial states that insurance company is only accepting the right hand and everything else is denied. Defendant is now challenging the nature and extent of the injury even though we have a QME from one year ago. Is the entire case assumed compensable & and is the denial untimely? Thank you friends, Karen Steinitz Galine Frye Fitting & Frangos
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The user's real question is about 'injury,' and this message directly discusses a workers' compensation injury case — specifically an admitted specific injury to the right hand with additional body parts identified by a QME. The message raises substantive legal issues about the nature and extent of injury, timeliness of denial for additional body parts, and whether the case is assumed compensable. While this message poses questions rather than answering them (it is a request for help at an expedited hearing), it contains substantive factual and legal context about injury claims, compensability, and denial timeliness that is directly relevant to the topic of injury in a workers' compensation context. However, since it is primarily a question seeking guidance rather than providing answers or analysis, its relevance is meaningful but not fully authoritative.
"Karen Steinitz" Date: July 23, 2026 12:24:00 PM Subject: Urgent! At Expedited Hearing Now Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Karen Steinitz Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hello Friends, I have a question about timeliness claim denial for additional body parts? This is an admitted specific injury to the right hand from 2024. Before we represented applicant, she went to a QME in July of 2025 who found additional body parts to the neck, shoulder, right upper extremity etc. Applicant began treatment we came on the case in January of 2026 and filed an opening application alleging all of the body parts. No denial was issued until 6 months later. Denial states that insurance company is only accepting the right hand and everything else is denied. Defendant is now challenging the nature and extent of the injury even though we have a QME from one year ago. Is the entire case assumed compensable & and is the denial untimely? Thank you friends, Karen Steinitz Galine Frye Fitting & Frangos
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury,' and this message substantively discusses a workers' compensation injury scenario involving a client with a right arm/elbow injury from March and a subsequent left arm/elbow injury in June. The message addresses how work comp treats a new injury (compensable consequence theory), the filing of an amended DWC-1, the role of a PTP and QME in evaluating the new body part, and concerns about liability for a $52k surgery when the private insurer has denied coverage. The message directly involves injury-related legal issues in the California workers' compensation context, including compensable consequences of an original industrial injury, subrogation concerns, and the risk of denial of a new body part claim. While the keyword search is extremely broad, this message contains substantive legal discussion about injury claims, compensable consequences, and related procedural and liability questions that would be meaningfully responsive to a search for 'injury' in a workers' comp legal forum context.
"Jacob Basta" Date: July 22, 2026 11:59:00 PM Subject: Compensable Consequences and Subrogation Qs Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Jacob Basta Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hello All! Rundown of the case: Client got injured in March to his right arm/elbow and had surgery on it and is in post-op. Client also injured his left arm/elbow later in June (at the airport pulling luggage) and had private treatment and also the same surgery performed on that arm. Client then retains me as attorney due to uncertainty regarding how work comp treats the new injury medicals (and TD/PD associated with it). I amended the DWC-1 and filed application with both arms for the same March date. Sent letter to existing PTP asking him to comment on the new injury. Client also talked with PTP about it. PTP thinks we can get it accepted through QME commenting on it (no panel yet, will pull one in the next week). QME has to comment on both arms since it is alleged on the application. Client's private insurance company now declared that they are not responsible. Client putting pressure on me to make sure this all works out. Is there a world in which work comp relentlessly denies the new body part and refuse to pay the existing 52k surgery on the left arm? Will client ever have to worry about paying up? Sorry if this feels like a dumb question but I am a fairly new attorney.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly references a workplace injury context. Specifically, it mentions a 'school custodian wrongfully terminated after injury' resulting in a $35.5M verdict in Santa Cruz County, and the broader discussion involves a workers' compensation claim arising from an industrial suicide following a workplace injury scenario. The message discusses LC 3208.3, psychiatric injury claims, post-termination issues, and civil liability theories connected to an underlying workplace injury. While the message is primarily focused on an industrial suicide case and civil theories rather than being a comprehensive treatment of 'injury' as a standalone topic, it does contain substantive legal discussion directly involving workplace injury claims, making it at least substantially relevant to someone searching for content related to injury in the workers' compensation context.
cognitorsj@aol.com Date: July 21, 2026 2:32:00 PM Subject: Re: Industrial Suicide Question Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Darin I LIKE the civil aspect. Lying to the worker is way outside the scope of workers' comp and has been found to subject the employer and the insurance company to civil liability. If the threat and the lie be tangentially connected as a cause to the suicide, there may be a good case there! School custodian wrongfully terminated after injury. $35.5M. Santa Cruz County. Mike Richter Campbell In a message dated 7/21/2026 11:59:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org writes: List: lawnet Sent By: Darin Powell Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings My two cents: Comp claim: possible but difficult. The main barriers are LC 3208.3, the good-faith personnel-action defense, post-termination issues, and the dependency problem. The practical problem that I see is who is your applicant if the parents are not actual dependents? If he was not receiving psychiatric treatment before his passing, what different does a CT or a specific injury event make? Civil theory: potentially more interesting if the employer knowingly made a false arrest threat. If you can prove that the employer’s conduct was outside the compensation bargain, i.e., knowingly false threats of arrest, intentional deceit, or conduct not in good-faith personnel administration, there would definitely be a potentially stronger civil case based on wrongful death / IIED / fraud-deceit / negligent misrepresentation or undertaking / Bane Act coercion analysis (i.e., interference with someone’s rights by threats, intimidation, or coercion ). Immediate concern: statute of limitations is a major concern. If no action has been taken since February 2024, this needs urgent review. Best of luck. Darin Powell -- Mitchell & Powell A Professional Law Corp. (Phone) 559.733.9898 / 559.733.5655 (Fax) www.mitchellandpowell.com
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message directly references 'injury' in a substantive legal context — specifically citing Labor Code 4650(b)(1) and (b)(2), which discuss permanent disability payment timing tied to 'the wages and compensation paid to the employee at the time of injury' and conditions related to the injury causing permanent disability. The word 'injury' appears in a legally meaningful way (not merely incidental), as it defines the benchmark for wage comparison under the statute. However, since the real question is simply a keyword search for 'injury' rather than a specific legal question about injury, and this message's primary focus is on when PD payments must start (not on the nature or definition of injury itself), the relevance is substantial but not the core subject of the message.
Labor Code 4650(b)(1): If the injury causes permanent disability, the first payment shall be made within 14 days after the date of last payment of temporary disability indemnity... Exception - LC 4650(b) (2) : Prior to an award of permanent disability indemnity, a permanent disability indemnity payment shall not be required if the employer has offered the employee a position that pays at least 85 percent of the wages and compensation paid to the employee at the time of injury or if the employee is employed in a position that pays at least 100 percent of the wages and compensation paid to the employee at the time of injury, provided that when an award of permanent disability indemnity is made, the amount then due shall be calculated from the last date for which temporary disability indemnity was paid, or the date the employee’s disability became permanent and stationary, whichever is earlier. Miranda Freitas Condra (she/her) Attorney at Minaie Law Group, APC A 402 W Broadway, Suite 400, San Diego, CA 92101 C (949) 402-7111 Mailing Address 34 Executive Park, Suite 250, Irvine, CA 92614 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee(s), and any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or copying of the information is prohibited. Should this message be received in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and all attachments. Please advise us immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Thank you. Pursuant to applicable federal regulations, we are required to inform you that any advice contained in this communication is not intended to be used nor can it be used for purposes of: (1) avoiding tax penalties or (2) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed above.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury,' and this message discusses an industrial suicide case in the context of California workers' compensation law. The message substantively addresses a work-related injury/death scenario, including filing a CT death claim, gathering evidence related to the circumstances of the industrial suicide, and investigating the employer's conduct. Industrial suicide is a recognized category of compensable injury/death in California workers' compensation, making this message relevant to the topic of 'injury' in a workers' comp context. The embedded reply from Arthur Csillag provides detailed, actionable legal guidance on how to pursue a death claim arising from a work-related injury. However, because the REAL question is extremely broad ('injury' as a keyword), the relevance is substantial but not pinpoint-specific — the message does address injury-related workers' compensation issues meaningfully.
"Beatriz A. Trejo" Date: July 21, 2026 11:31:00 AM Subject: Re: Industrial Suicide Question Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Beatriz Trejo Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Thank you, everyone, for the responses. I will continue to look into it. There were no dependents. Beatriz A. Trejo Partner, Law Office of Chain | Cohn | Clark Certified Legal Specialist in Workers’ Compensation by the State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization 1731 Chester Avenue | Bakersfield, CA | 93301 (661) 323-4000 | btrejo@chainlaw.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE : The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. From: Arthur Csillag (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2026 8:21 PM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: Re: [lawnet] Industrial Suicide Question List: lawnet Sent By: Arthur Csillag Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Beatriz, This is a very sad case. I would file a CT death claim immediately for the parents. 1. Obtain the complete personnel file. 2. Obtain the investigation and/or internal investigation records relating to the alleged "gross misconduct". 3. Any written, recorded and/or transcribed statements. 4. HR notes, surveillance records . 5. Any and all communications regarding the alleged threat of arrest. 6. Find out and determine exactly who told him he would be arrested, whether anyone actually contacted law enforcement, whether anyone represented that charges had been filed, and whether anyone knew those statements were false. 7. Obtain the coroner's file, death investigation, suicidenote, (if one exists beyond the text message. 8. Obtain the decedent's phone records and text messages. 9. Obtain all mental health records. 10. Try to interview coworkers . The absence of a police report does not necessarily establish that the employer lied. They may have intended to report the matter, may have consulted law enforcement, or the decedent may simply have misunderstood what was said. This is critical to determine. Find out whether the termination meeting itself constituted a sudden, extraordinary employment event resulting in psychiatric injury. This is worth exploring through psyche evidence. Immediately send out a preservation of evidence letter - certified mail, via fax and via email if possible. Ask to preserve emails, textss, security video, HR records, investigation materials, and electronically stored information. These are my initial thoughts. Good luck. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151 On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 7:06 PM Crystal Forsher (lawnet listserver) < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > wrote: List: lawnet Sent By: Crystal Forsher Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings So sorry to hear about this sad situation. Are there any dependents? Crystal C. Forsher, ESQ. Certified Workers' Compensation Specialist CAAA Central Coast Chapter President Herreras & Forsher, LLP MAILING ADDRESS PO BOX 1668 Arroyo Grande, CA 93421 P: (805) 473-8550 F: (805) 473-8583 E: Crystal.forsher@herrerasforsher.com W: www.herrerasforsher.com Serving Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo Counties for all your Workers' Compensation needs. This message is protected by the Electronic Communications Act, 19 U.S.C., Sections 2510-2521, and is confidential and is subject to privilege, including but not limited to the attorney-client privilege. The information contained in this message is intended only for the use of the identified recipient. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us. From: Beatriz Trejo (lawnet listserver) < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2026 5:10 PM To: Statewide List Service < lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > Subject: [lawnet] Industrial Suicide Question List: lawnet Sent By: Beatriz Trejo Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hello, A client just told me a difficult story about her son. First, this happened in February of 2024, so there may be a SOL issue there. My client’s son was 21 years old at the time and working for a large store. He was having issues with a female supervisor. The issues came to a boiling point, and an unknown incident occurred at work, and he was terminated for “gross misconduct.” Apparently, he was told during the meeting that he would be arrested for his actions. The parents don’t know what actually happened, and the only paperwork they have mentions misconduct. Three days later, he sends a family member a text message stating that he will be arrested for his actions at work and will take his own life. He commits suicide. The family later finds out that there was no police report for his actions at work. No arrest warrant. Was there an industrial injury at the time of the termination? Did the employer cause the suicide by lying about the arrest? Any thoughts on this one? Beatriz A. Trejo Partner, Law Office of Chain | Cohn | Clark Certified Legal Specialist in Workers’ Compensation by the State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization 1731 Chester Avenue | Bakersfield, CA | 93301 (661) 323-4000 | btrejo@chainlaw.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE : The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message directly addresses a workers' compensation case involving psychiatric injury (industrial suicide/death claim), which is a form of compensable injury under California workers' comp law. The message discusses whether a termination meeting constituted a 'sudden, extraordinary employment event resulting in psychiatric injury,' references the need for psychiatric/mental health evidence, and outlines a litigation strategy for a death/injury claim. The message substantively engages with the concept of industrial injury — specifically psychiatric injury arising from employment events — which is directly relevant to the keyword 'injury' in a California workers' compensation legal context. However, the confidence is moderated because the search is extremely broad ('injury' as a keyword), and this message addresses only one specific and narrow scenario (industrial suicide/psychiatric injury from a termination meeting) rather than providing general information about injury law or definitions.
Beatriz, This is a very sad case. I would file a CT death claim immediately for the parents. 1. Obtain the complete personnel file. 2. Obtain the investigation and/or internal investigation records relating to the alleged "gross misconduct". 3. Any written, recorded and/or transcribed statements. 4. HR notes, surveillance records . 5. Any and all communications regarding the alleged threat of arrest. 6. Find out and determine exactly who told him he would be arrested, whether anyone actually contacted law enforcement, whether anyone represented that charges had been filed, and whether anyone knew those statements were false. 7. Obtain the coroner's file, death investigation, suicidenote, (if one exists beyond the text message. 8. Obtain the decedent's phone records and text messages. 9. Obtain all mental health records. 10. Try to interview coworkers . The absence of a police report does not necessarily establish that the employer lied. They may have intended to report the matter, may have consulted law enforcement, or the decedent may simply have misunderstood what was said. This is critical to determine. Find out whether the termination meeting itself constituted a sudden, extraordinary employment event resulting in psychiatric injury. This is worth exploring through psyche evidence. Immediately send out a preservation of evidence letter - certified mail, via fax and via email if possible. Ask to preserve emails, textss, security video, HR records, investigation materials, and electronically stored information. These are my initial thoughts. Good luck. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly discusses a workers' compensation case involving a workplace injury context — specifically an industrial suicide claim following a workplace incident. The message addresses whether a suicide can be considered 'industrial' (i.e., work-related injury), discusses the personnel action defense, and provides procedural guidance on pursuing a death/injury claim in California workers' compensation. The term 'injury' is central to the legal analysis here, as the entire discussion revolves around whether the employee's death constitutes a compensable industrial injury. However, since the real question is a broad keyword search rather than a specific legal question, this message is substantively relevant as it discusses workplace injury in a meaningful legal context, though it is focused on a narrow sub-topic (industrial suicide) rather than injury broadly.
cognitorsj@aol.com Date: July 20, 2026 7:31:00 PM Subject: Re: Industrial Suicide Question Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings First thought is that the employer lied to him, apparently causing egregious harm. Second thought is that you need to find out what happened at work. You'll need to find co-employees that witnessed it. You can file an death claim. Employer will claim personnel action defense. There are rules about whether suicide is going to be considered industrial or not. You won't know what the facts are unless you file the application. There's no "Summary Judgement" in comp, so along with the application, I would file a request for the deceased personnel file, all human relations notes, claims, complaints, etc., and set the depositions for the supervisor, then human resources person, set the depositions of any and all witnesses, you'll get their names, hopefully, in the reports, or you can wait until you get the supervisor and human resources depositions. Those are my quick, "I'm tired of reading about allostatic load" ideas. Mike Richter Campbell In a message dated 7/20/2026 5:10:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org writes: List: lawnet Sent By: Beatriz Trejo Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hello, A client just told me a difficult story about her son. First, this happened in February of 2024, so there may be a SOL issue there. My client’s son was 21 years old at the time and working for a large store. He was having issues with a female supervisor. The issues came to a boiling point, and an unknown incident occurred at work, and he was terminated for “gross misconduct.” Apparently, he was told during the meeting that he would be arrested for his actions. The parents don’t know what actually happened, and the only paperwork they have mentions misconduct. Three days later, he sends a family member a text message stating that he will be arrested for his actions at work and will take his own life. He commits suicide. The family later finds out that there was no police report for his actions at work. No arrest warrant. Was there an industrial injury at the time of the termination? Did the employer cause the suicide by lying about the arrest? Any thoughts on this one? Beatriz A. Trejo Partner, Law Office of Chain | Cohn | Clark Certified Legal Specialist in Workers’ Compensation by the State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization 1731 Chester Avenue | Bakersfield, CA | 93301 (661) 323-4000 | btrejo@chainlaw.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE : The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message directly involves the legal concept of industrial injury in a workers' compensation context. The message poses substantive legal questions about whether a workplace termination meeting — where an employee was allegedly falsely told he would be arrested — constitutes an industrial injury, and whether the employer's alleged misrepresentation caused a subsequent suicide. These are core workers' compensation questions about the nature and causation of industrial injury, including psychiatric injury and employer-caused harm. While this message is a question posed by an attorney rather than an answer, it substantively engages with the concept of industrial injury and its application to a specific fact pattern, making it relevant to someone researching the topic of injury in a workers' compensation context. However, confidence is moderate rather than high because the message raises questions without providing answers or legal analysis.
"Beatriz A. Trejo" Date: July 20, 2026 7:11:00 PM Subject: Industrial Suicide Question Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Beatriz Trejo Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hello, A client just told me a difficult story about her son. First, this happened in February of 2024, so there may be a SOL issue there. My client’s son was 21 years old at the time and working for a large store. He was having issues with a female supervisor. The issues came to a boiling point, and an unknown incident occurred at work, and he was terminated for “gross misconduct.” Apparently, he was told during the meeting that he would be arrested for his actions. The parents don’t know what actually happened, and the only paperwork they have mentions misconduct. Three days later, he sends a family member a text message stating that he will be arrested for his actions at work and will take his own life. He commits suicide. The family later finds out that there was no police report for his actions at work. No arrest warrant. Was there an industrial injury at the time of the termination? Did the employer cause the suicide by lying about the arrest? Any thoughts on this one? Beatriz A. Trejo Partner, Law Office of Chain | Cohn | Clark Certified Legal Specialist in Workers’ Compensation by the State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization 1731 Chester Avenue | Bakersfield, CA | 93301 (661) 323-4000 | btrejo@chainlaw.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE : The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message does contain a reference to injury in the truncated original post by Arthur Csillag, which mentions 'an admitted ortho injury' and discusses how the applicant's pain contributed to an ischemic attack. The reply from Anthony Polakov focuses on recommending specific AME physicians (neurological and internal medicine) for evaluating such a case. While the message touches on injury in the context of a workers' compensation case involving an orthopedic injury and its connection to a neurological event, the primary content is a recommendation of specific doctors rather than a substantive legal discussion about injury per se. Given the extremely broad nature of the keyword search ('injury'), this message is partially relevant as it discusses a workers' compensation injury scenario, but it does not deeply address any specific legal question about injury law, standards, or procedures.
"Anthony Polakov" Date: August 06, 2026 5:08:00 PM Subject: Re: NEED INPUT RE INTERNAL AND NUERO AMES Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Anthony S. Polakov Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi Art: Fink is the best of the bunch on that list. Anees is a washout. Shorr is ok. I would not use Espy. As for internal, Kramer is the best. Grodan is repped by Marlena Garland but he is not always reliable. Alpern is good as well. Anthony S. Polakov, Esq. Stoll, Nussbaum & Polakov, APC 11620 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 500 Los Angeles, CA 90025 (310)996-7500 (310)575-4353 Fax apolakov@stolllaw.com Please take notice that Stoll, Nussbaum & Polakov is under a mandatory work from home order due to the Covid-19 pandemic. As a result, our physical office is closed and all employees are working remotely in hopes of doing our part to slow the spread of COVID-19. We ask that all correspondence, pleadings, discovery and/or other communications be electronically sent via email, dropbox, or other electronic means to mail@stolllaw.com until further notice. Any communications sent via U.S. Mail, and/or personal or overnight delivery will encounter significant delays in receipt because all mail will be forwarded and remotely processed . These delays can be avoided by sending all communications by email, dropbox and/or other electronic means to the following address: mail@stolllaw.com . PLEASE NOTE OUR NEW ADDRESS : 11620 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 500 Los Angeles, CA 90025 310.996.7500 office 310.575.4353 fax From: Arthur Csillag (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2026 2:46 PM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: [lawnet] NEED INPUT RE INTERNAL AND NUERO AMES List: lawnet Sent By: Arthur Csillag Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi All, I have an admitted ortho injury. PTP says based upon studies that applicant's pain contributed to her ischemic attack while also contributing to afib. He has recommended an internist and neuro. This is a City of LA case. We are required to get to an AME on their list as it is an ADR case. The internal AMEs are: 1. Dr. Stuart Kramer, 2. Dr. Paul Grodan, and 3. Dr. Harvey Alpern The neuro AMEs are: 1. Clarke D. Dspy, MD 2. Ezekiel Fink, MD 3. Robert ShorrKhaled Anees, MD I think Alpern is not great. I like Fink. Any input on these physicians would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151
AI Analysis:
The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message does mention a 'very serious injury case' in the context of discussing FCE (Functional Capacity Evaluation) recommendations. However, the message is primarily about recommending a specific FCE evaluator (Alireza Bagherian) and advising caution when dealing with defense-offered FCEs. The mention of 'injury' is incidental rather than substantive — the message does not explain, analyze, or address any specific legal question about injuries in workers' compensation. It merely references an injury case as context for a practitioner recommendation. Given that the search appears to be a broad keyword search for 'injury,' the message contains the term but does not provide substantive information about injury law, injury claims, or injury-related legal issues.
Hi Brian - Be very cautious about FCE's offered by the defense. Check out their backgrounds very carefully. Find out what others think of him. Get his CV. What's his experience like? How long has he been doing this? Has he worked for both sides? Find out his reputation. An FCE can make or break a case. If you can get Alireza Bagherian DC Rehabilitation Center 3580 California St #102, San Francisco 415-921-6200 I would use him - he was fantastic for me in a very serious injury case of mine. I was able to get the State Fund to agree to him. He came to LA from San Francisco to evaluate my client. I would even pay to have the client go to San Francisco to be evaluated by him, if need be. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151 T he Law Office Of Arthur Csillag strives to be conscientious about using as little paper as possible. While we cannot accept official service via fax or email, we welcome receiving all other communications via email. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email is confidential, privileged and/or may also contain attorney-client information or attorney work product. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, reliance, use, dissemination, distribution, copying or forwarding of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete all copies.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message does mention a 'very serious injury case' in the context of recommending a Functional Capacity Evaluator (FCE). However, the message is primarily about FCE recommendations and due diligence when selecting an FCE provider, not substantively about injury law, injury claims, or any specific legal question about injuries. The word 'injury' appears only incidentally. While the message is from a workers' compensation context where injury is central, it does not directly explain, analyze, or answer any substantive question about injury. Given the extremely broad nature of the keyword search, the message is marginally relevant by virtue of appearing in a workers' compensation context and mentioning injury, but it does not provide meaningful substantive information about injury as a legal topic.
Hi Brian - Be very cautious about FCE's offered by the defense. Check out their backgrounds very carefully. Find out what others think of him. Get his CV. What's his experience like? How long has he been doing this? Has he worked for both sides? Find out his reputation. An FCE can make or break a case. If you can get Alireza Bagherian DC Rehabilitation Center 3580 California St #102, San Francisco 415-921-6200 I would use him - he was fantastic for me in a very serious injury case of mine. I was able to get the State Fund to agree to him. He came to LA from San Francisco to evaluate my client. I would even pay to have the client go to San Francisco to be evaluated by him, if need be. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151 T he Law Office Of Arthur Csillag strives to be conscientious about using as little paper as possible. While we cannot accept official service via fax or email, we welcome receiving all other communications via email. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email is confidential, privileged and/or may also contain attorney-client information or attorney work product. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, reliance, use, dissemination, distribution, copying or forwarding of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete all copies.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message does contain a reference to an injury — specifically, the injured worker got a part-time job at CVS after the injury but couldn't handle it. However, the message is primarily about a Temporary Disability (TD) step-up/increase calculation and wage analysis for a specific case, not a substantive discussion about the nature, legal standards, or handling of injuries in workers' compensation. The mention of 'injury' is incidental to the main topic. Since the real question is simply a keyword search for 'injury' (rather than a specific legal question about injuries), the message does technically contain the keyword in a workers' compensation context, making it marginally relevant, but it does not provide deep substantive information about injuries as a legal topic.
"Ali Nosrat" Date: July 29, 2026 1:29:00 PM Subject: Re: Help with TD Step-up/Increase Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Ali Nosrat Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi Hollie, thank you for your input, her spouse was helping her before (out of courtesy?) but after the relationship with her employer, those have dried up. She got a part time job after the injury at CVS, but couldn't handle that either. Regarding inflation, that's a good point. I'll talk to her about it, but all she wants me to do at this point is to get her more money. -----Original Message----- From: Hollie@TCLC.org Sent: July 24, 2026 11:25:00 AM To: lawnet@lists.trialsmith.com Subject: Re: Help with TD Step-up/Increase Do you have her wage statement from 5/31/22 - 5/31/23? I think you may not have all the facts. If IW was able to survive on her AWE when she was working, her TD rate should not be that much less than her Net income when she was working. If she could not survive on her AWE while she was working, where did her extra income come from to bring her up to wages she could survive on? Concurrent employment? Roommate? Child support? Family? (Recall that inflation rate in May 2022 was quite high, 8.6% over the last twelve months, down to 4.0% in May 2023.) Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. [ https://the-compensation-law-center.business.site/ ' The Compensation Law Center ] Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> To: "Statewide List Service" <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2026 2:55:00 PM Subject: [lawnet] Help with TD Step-up/Increase List: lawnet Sent By: [ mailto:lawyer@legalknights.com ' Ali Nosrat ] [ mailto:lawyer@legalknights.com?subject=Re%3A%20Help%20with%20TD%20Step-up%2FIncrease ' Reply To Sender ] [ mailto:lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org?subject=Re%3A%20Help%20with%20TD%20Step-up%2FIncrease ' Reply To List ] [ http://www.caaa.org/index.cfm?pg=search ' Search ] [ http://www.caaa.org/index.cfm?pg=listviewer&lsAction=listSettings ' Settings ] Hello, client was sexually and mentally abused by employer (acupuncturist) for about 5 years; she worked part time; resigned on 5/31/2023; psych QME put her on TTD starting 10/29/24; she now receives around $900 in TD, which she cannot survive on; can an argument be made that cost of living has dramatically increased during the past couple/few years and she should be entitled to more? She received EDD for a very short time based on a chiro that has not provided us with any reports and was non-compliant with SDT. I've done as much research as I can and I can't find anything that would support any arguments to get her more TD, which is unfortunate. Thank you in advance.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message does contain references to industrial injury, date of injury, and injured workers in the context of discussing PTD (Permanent Total Disability) SAWW increases and the Board's jurisdiction over prior orders. The message discusses legal issues surrounding workers' compensation indemnity and attorney fees in relation to an industrial injury case (Rader v. Ticketmaster Corp.). However, the message does not focus substantively on 'injury' as a legal concept or answer any specific question about injury — it primarily addresses procedural jurisdiction over PD awards and SAWW annual increases. The mention of 'injury' is incidental to the main discussion rather than the central topic, making this only partially relevant to a broad keyword search for 'injury.'
cognitorsj@aol.com Date: July 27, 2026 12:01:00 PM Subject: Re: Memory Fail - Seminar about IR failing to add SAWW amounts annually. Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Thank you Hollie But what about a carrier who simply does not increase the PTD in accordance with the annual SAWW increases? Mike In a message dated 7/27/2026 9:23:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org writes: List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings This is the law porion of the Rader case - Rader v. Ticketmaster Corp., care of Robert Monroe; State Comp. Ins. Fund, ADJ7138762 (VNO), Mar. 17, 2025, Opinion Granting Reconsideration 53 CWCR 41: The issue . . . is whether a reduction in PD indemnity relating to attorney fees falls within the Board’s jurisdiction over prior orders. According to Hodge v. WCAB (1981) 123 CA3d 50, 9 CWCR 204, 46 CCC 1034, “collateral changes” may be made to an award as long as the “merits of the basic decision” were not altered, nor the amount of benefits. The present panel notes that Hodge allowed a credit to an employer after a subsequent civil lawsuit was finalized relating to medical treatment applicant had obtained for his industrial injury more than five years after the injury date. The present panel further discussed Garcia v. IAC (1958) 162 CA2d 761, 23 CCC 149, in which a lien for attorney’s fees was permitted when new attorneys were substituted more than five years after the date of injury and successfully assisted an injured worker in resisting a petition to reopen filed by the Subsequent Injuries Fund (now Subsequent Injuries Benefits Trust Fund). The present commissioners reasoned the issue for them to decide is whether a reduction in PD indemnity relating to attorney fees falls within the Board’s jurisdiction over prior orders or if it is “tantamount to an alteration or amendment of the Award more than five years from the date of injury.” Further, assuming jurisdiction, the issue becomes whether the credit for the commutation relating to attorney fees “precludes further reduction in applicant’s current [PD] payment for attorney fees.” Accordingly, the Board panel granted applicant’s reconsideration petition, while ordering that a final decision after reconsideration be deferred pending further review of the merits of the petition and of the entire record in light of the applicable statutory and decisional law. Editor’s Note: It is unclear why the panel felt the need for deferral of a final decision, as there did not appear to be any added evidence needed to determine whether the fee should be terminated. It would seem to be a question of law and not of fact. The final decision over these open-ended fee situations will be of great interest to the compensation community. A practical solution might be the statement in a stipulated settlement that the attorney fees awarded are to terminate when their calculated payment comes to an end or when applicant is no longer entitled to PD payments, whichever i s sooner. Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> To: "Statewide List Service" <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2026 10:50:05 AM Subject: Re: [lawnet] Memory Fail - Seminar about IR failing to add SAWW amounts annually. List: lawnet Sent By: Karina Delzell Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I think you’re looking for RADER V. TICKETMASTER CORPORATION (2025) 2025 CAL. WRK. COMP. P.D. LEXIS 86 Karina Kowler Delzell Brown & Delzell, LLP Certified Specialist in Workers' Compensation Law 999 Fifth Avenue, Suite 430 San Rafael, CA 94901 415-925-9212 From: Mike Richter (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2026 9:53 AM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: [lawnet] Memory Fail - Seminar about IR failing to add SAWW amounts annually. List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hey All I'm having a memory fail. At what conference did we learn about how to penalize a carrier for failing to increase the annual SAWW amounts in a case with a total disability award? I've been looking and haven't been able to find it. When was that? It was a great program though. Mike Richter Campbell
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message does contain a direct reference to a 'serious back injury' in the context of a workers' compensation QME panel selection discussion. However, the message itself is primarily about which QME doctor to strike from an orthopedic panel (Stavrakis vs. Nussbaum), with the back injury mentioned only incidentally as the underlying condition in the case. The message does not provide substantive information about injury law, injury causation, injury evaluation standards, or any other topic that would meaningfully answer a question about 'injury' in a legal research sense. The keyword appears as context rather than as the subject of analysis. This is a borderline case — the word appears and there is a workers' comp injury context, but the message does not directly address or explain anything about the nature, treatment, or legal handling of the injury itself.
"Robert Skrinyaz" Date: July 27, 2026 11:49:00 AM Subject: Re: Who to strike - Ortho QME panel Alexandra Stavrakis MD or Richard Nussbaum Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Robert Skrinyaz Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I usually don't favor Nussbaum or Christ as treaters or evaluators; although she is unknown to me, Dr. Stavrakis does have a pretty impressive CV. I suppose that means that if her reports are terrific, they will be well-written and detailed, and if her reports are terrible, they will be well-written and detailed. - R -----Original Message----- From: acsillaglaw@gmail.com Sent: July 24, 2026 12:45:00 PM To: lawnet@lists.trialsmith.com Subject: Re: Who to strike - Ortho QME panel Alexandra Stavrakis MD or Richard Nussbaum Hi Jignesh - Nussbaum is unpredictable. I have had some good results, but also some bad ones. Interestingly I had him on a personal jury trial many years back in Van Nuys and came out with a decent verdict in a car crash/broken ankle case. Call me privately for more info. Good luck. Art *Arthur Csillag, Esq.* *acsillaglaw@gmail.com <ascsillaglaw@gmail.com>* *Law Office Of Arthur Csillag* 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151 On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 10:14 AM Jignesh Bhatt (lawnet listserver) < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> wrote: > *List:* lawnet *Sent By:* Jignesh Bhatt <jignesh.bhatt@forthepeople.com> > Reply To Sender > <jignesh.bhatt@forthepeople.com?subject=Re%3A%20Who%20to%20strike%20-%20Ortho%20QME%20panel%20Alexandra%20Stavrakis%20MD%20or%20Richard%20Nussbaum> > Reply To List > <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org?subject=Re%3A%20Who%20to%20strike%20-%20Ortho%20QME%20panel%20Alexandra%20Stavrakis%20MD%20or%20Richard%20Nussbaum> > Search <http://www.caaa.org/index.cfm?pg=search> > Settings > <http://www.caaa.org/index.cfm?pg=listviewer&lsAction=listSettings> > > TGIF, > > Young client with serious back injury. DA obtained an orthopedic qme panel > with the following: > Alexandra I Stavrakis MD > Richard E Nussbaum MD > Alexander B Christ MD > > Listserve show Dr. Chris is fine. Dr. Nussbaum sounds familiar, but I > can't remember whether it was positive, and Dr. Stavrakis is new to me. > > I always appreciate the input. > >
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message does contain references to industrial injury, date of injury, and injured workers in the context of a workers' compensation case (Rader v. Ticketmaster Corp.) discussing PD indemnity, attorney fees, and the Board's jurisdiction over prior orders beyond five years from the date of injury. The message mentions 'injury' in a substantive legal context multiple times. However, because the real question is simply a keyword search for 'injury' with no further specificity, and this message does contain that term in a meaningful legal context related to workers' compensation, it is partially relevant. That said, the message is primarily focused on procedural jurisdiction issues regarding PD indemnity reductions and attorney fee credits more than five years post-injury, rather than being a comprehensive discussion of 'injury' as a concept. It qualifies as partially relevant given the broad nature of the keyword search.
"M. Hollie Rutkowski" Date: July 27, 2026 11:24:00 AM Subject: Re: Memory Fail - Seminar about IR failing to add SAWW amounts annually. Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings This is the law porion of the Rader case - Rader v. Ticketmaster Corp., care of Robert Monroe; State Comp. Ins. Fund, ADJ7138762 (VNO), Mar. 17, 2025, Opinion Granting Reconsideration 53 CWCR 41: The issue . . . is whether a reduction in PD indemnity relating to attorney fees falls within the Board’s jurisdiction over prior orders. According to Hodge v. WCAB (1981) 123 CA3d 50, 9 CWCR 204, 46 CCC 1034, “collateral changes” may be made to an award as long as the “merits of the basic decision” were not altered, nor the amount of benefits. The present panel notes that Hodge allowed a credit to an employer after a subsequent civil lawsuit was finalized relating to medical treatment applicant had obtained for his industrial injury more than five years after the injury date. The present panel further discussed Garcia v. IAC (1958) 162 CA2d 761, 23 CCC 149, in which a lien for attorney’s fees was permitted when new attorneys were substituted more than five years after the date of injury and successfully assisted an injured worker in resisting a petition to reopen filed by the Subsequent Injuries Fund (now Subsequent Injuries Benefits Trust Fund). The present commissioners reasoned the issue for them to decide is whether a reduction in PD indemnity relating to attorney fees falls within the Board’s jurisdiction over prior orders or if it is “tantamount to an alteration or amendment of the Award more than five years from the date of injury.” Further, assuming jurisdiction, the issue becomes whether the credit for the commutation relating to attorney fees “precludes further reduction in applicant’s current [PD] payment for attorney fees.” Accordingly, the Board panel granted applicant’s reconsideration petition, while ordering that a final decision after reconsideration be deferred pending further review of the merits of the petition and of the entire record in light of the applicable statutory and decisional law. Editor’s Note: It is unclear why the panel felt the need for deferral of a final decision, as there did not appear to be any added evidence needed to determine whether the fee should be terminated. It would seem to be a question of law and not of fact. The final decision over these open-ended fee situations will be of great interest to the compensation community. A practical solution might be the statement in a stipulated settlement that the attorney fees awarded are to terminate when their calculated payment comes to an end or when applicant is no longer entitled to PD payments, whichever i s sooner. Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> To: "Statewide List Service" <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2026 10:50:05 AM Subject: Re: [lawnet] Memory Fail - Seminar about IR failing to add SAWW amounts annually. List: lawnet Sent By: Karina Delzell Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I think you’re looking for RADER V. TICKETMASTER CORPORATION (2025) 2025 CAL. WRK. COMP. P.D. LEXIS 86 Karina Kowler Delzell Brown & Delzell, LLP Certified Specialist in Workers' Compensation Law 999 Fifth Avenue, Suite 430 San Rafael, CA 94901 415-925-9212 From: Mike Richter (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2026 9:53 AM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: [lawnet] Memory Fail - Seminar about IR failing to add SAWW amounts annually. List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hey All I'm having a memory fail. At what conference did we learn about how to penalize a carrier for failing to increase the annual SAWW amounts in a case with a total disability award? I've been looking and haven't been able to find it. When was that? It was a great program though. Mike Richter Campbell
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message does mention a 'serious back injury' in the context of a QME panel selection discussion. However, the message does not substantively address or explain anything about injury in a legal or educational sense — it is primarily a request for information about specific QME doctors (Stavrakis, Nussbaum, Christ) and their reputations. The word 'injury' appears only incidentally to describe the client's condition, not to answer any question about injury law, causation, treatment, or related legal standards. This is a borderline case: the message contains the keyword but does not provide substantive information that would help someone seeking information 'about injury' in a meaningful legal context. Marking as partially relevant at low confidence due to the incidental mention only.
"Jignesh Bhatt" Date: July 24, 2026 12:14:00 PM Subject: Who to strike - Ortho QME panel Alexandra Stavrakis MD or Richard Nussbaum Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Jignesh Bhatt Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings TGIF, Young client with serious back injury. DA obtained an orthopedic qme panel with the following: Alexandra I Stavrakis MD Richard E Nussbaum MD Alexander B Christ MD Listserve show Dr. Chris is fine. Dr. Nussbaum sounds familiar, but I can't remember whether it was positive, and Dr. Stavrakis is new to me. I always appreciate the input.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message does contain a direct reference to injury — specifically, a back, shoulder, and leg injury sustained when a client fell after a delivery van step gave way. The message is primarily a request for input on chiropractic QME panel members, but it does describe an injury scenario in the context of a workers' compensation case. However, the message does not substantively explain, analyze, or answer any legal question about injury — it merely mentions an injury as background context for a QME panel inquiry. Since the real question appears to be a broad keyword search rather than a specific legal question, the message is partially relevant by virtue of containing the keyword in a meaningful legal/factual context, but it provides no substantive legal analysis or guidance about injury claims.
"Andrew Nahl" Date: July 24, 2026 10:30:00 AM Subject: CHIRO QME PANEL Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Andrew Nahl Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I have the following chiros on a back, shoulder and leg injury when my client fell after the step on his delvivery van gave way: John Wyatt Sayed Miry Timothy Coykendall Any input is greatly appreciated.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury,' and this message does contain substantive discussion involving a workers' compensation injury scenario — specifically a hand injury with a disputed neck body part, a spinal cord stimulator trial, and procedural steps (Priority Conference, QME Panel, penalties/sanctions). The message discusses injury-related legal strategy in a California workers' comp context. However, because the real question is simply a keyword search for 'injury' with no specific legal issue defined, it is difficult to assess true relevance beyond the fact that the message substantively discusses an injury claim and related procedural issues. It is partially relevant in that it addresses injury disputes and body part acceptance, but without a more specific legal question, the relevance is limited to the general presence of injury-related content.
"M. Hollie Rutkowski" Date: July 23, 2026 1:21:00 PM Subject: Re: Urgent! At Expedited Hearing Now Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings A Priority Conference does not apply with injury is accepted but body parts are at issue. Traditionally, the next stop to proving body parts is to proceed to QME Panel Request and PQME, but you already did that. As for Def denying a permanent SCS after a successful SCS Trial, but how is Def to do that? Refuse to send RFA to UR in violation of LC 4610? Refuse to approve a UR approval? Refuse to pay for SCS implant? I don't think any of those options is likely. You also have plenty of time for file for Penalties and Sanctions. Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> To: "Statewide List Service" <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2026 11:08:34 AM Subject: Re: [lawnet] Urgent! At Expedited Hearing Now List: lawnet Sent By: Karen Steinitz Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Thank you my friends to all who responded. The Judge indicated he will rule in my favor today for the treatment issue because they did not put the RFA through UR. Instead, DA sent a letter that they would not submit it to UR because the treatment was for a disputed body part and separately issued a denial for only that body part. Until several weeks ago, I did not know they were denying (the neck). (original injury is hand). The defendant approved a spinal cord stimulator trial but decided to deny the permanent implant. However, is my next step to file for a priority conference? If I can argue the denial was untimely, I'd like to move forward before the depo the QME. Any advice is appreciated and I thank you for your quick responses! Karen Shrita Steinitz Galine Frye Fitting & Frangos ____________________________ Hello Friends, I have a question about timeliness claim denial for additional body parts? This is an admitted specific injury to the right hand from 2024. Before we represented applicant, she went to a QME in July of 2025 who found additional body parts to the neck, shoulder, right upper extremity etc. Applicant began treatment we came on the case in January of 2026 and filed an opening application alleging all of the body parts. No denial was issued until 6 months later. Denial states that insurance company is only accepting the right hand and everything else is denied. Defendant is now challenging the nature and extent of the injury even though we have a QME from one year ago. Is the entire case assumed compensable & and is the denial untimely? Thank you friends, Karen Steinitz Galine Frye Fitting & Frangos
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury,' and this message does contain substantive discussion of injury-related topics in a workers' compensation context — specifically head injury, brain injury symptoms, neuropsychological evaluation, and the legal implications of injuries sustained during medical treatment (including apportionment issues). The message mentions recommending a neuro-psych evaluation for ongoing symptoms of brain injury and raises a legal point about injuries from medical treatment not being subject to apportionment. However, because the real question is simply a keyword search for 'injury' with no more specific legal question to answer, the message is partially relevant in that it discusses injury in a workers' compensation context, but it does not answer any particular focused legal question. The relevance is moderate — the message contains meaningful injury-related legal content, but the vague nature of the search makes it difficult to assess whether this specific discussion of head/brain injury in a dual-capacity credit dispute context is what the user is actually seeking.
cognitorsj@aol.com Date: August 10, 2026 4:53:00 PM Subject: Re: Credit Issue - Employer-Paid Dual Capacity Settlement vs. §§ 3861/3600(b)/3602 - Any Guidance? Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I would nail down the damage the head injury caused. I'd want to get a neuro-psyche if your client is still having headaches, vision issues, personality issues. Basically go to the net and ask for symptoms of brain injury. If she's still got them and they haven't resolved, then it would be worth it to go forward to see what's going on. Is she able to work? The other question is hovering in the back of my brain and hasn't come out. It has something to do with the employer/employee relationship and the fact that any injuries sustained as a result of medical treatment would not be subject to apportionment. More perhaps, later. Mike Richter Campbell In a message dated 8/10/2026 11:41:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org writes: List: lawnet Sent By: Justin Dixon Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Mates, I'd appreciate any thoughts or case law support on a credit issue that just came up on the eve of an AOE/COE trial I was set for in AHM today with Judge Alice Burden. Factual Background: Applicant, a UCLA/Regents employee, became dizzy and nauseous at work and was transported to a Regents-owned ER across the street for treatment. While there, she was left unattended, fainted, and hit her head. The underlying comp claim (AOE/COE) has been disputed and is set for trial. On the eve of that trial, we learned Applicant separately settled a civil claim against Regents for the ER incident to the tune of a $150,000 general release - which Defendant now says entitles it to a credit against any comp benefits awarded. Given the size of the settlement relative to likely exposure, this credit issue could wash out the comp claim entirely, so it seems like it needs to be resolved by judicial finding before AOE/COE proceeds. There didn't seem to be any point trying AOE/COE if the credit issue is dispositive either way. Judge Burden seemed to agree and took us off calendar. The Issue: Regents is both the employer and the released civil defendant (dual capacity - second injury during ER treatment, separate from the original work injury). That doesn't fit cleanly under Labor Code § 3861, the third-party subrogation chapter (§§3850-3865) which applies to "third party tortfeasors". It also doesn't obviously fit §3600(b), which only credits settlements obtained "pursuant to" the enumerated §3602(b)/§ 4558 exclusivity exceptions - and our claim isn't one of those enumerated exceptions. So on its face, neither statute seems to reach this settlement - but I expect Defendant to lean hard on general equitable "no double recovery" principles to support their entitlement to the credit. Has anyone dealt with a credit dispute in this dual-capacity situation where an employer pays its own civil settlement rather than a true third party? Any case law balancing §§3861, 3600(b), and 3602 in this scenario, or addressing how far the equitable double-recovery argument can stretch past the statutory provisions involving credit? Any guidance, war stories, or legal authority support is appreciated. Thanks in advance. Very truly yours, Justin P. Dixon, Esq. DIXON LAW, APC 921 N. Harbor Blvd., Suite 434 ' La Habra, CA 90631 Office: 562.685.0003 ' Fax: 562.685.0020 www.dixonlawapc.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message does mention an injury context — specifically, a client who got a part-time job after an injury but couldn't handle it — making it technically relevant to the keyword 'injury.' However, the message is primarily a brief reply in a thread about TD step-up/increase strategy for a specific case involving a sexually and mentally abused worker. The mention of 'injury' is incidental to the main discussion about temporary disability benefits and employment history. Since the real question is simply a keyword search for 'injury' rather than a specific legal question about injury law or doctrine, the message qualifies as partially relevant due to the direct mention of injury in context, but it does not provide substantive legal analysis about injury itself.
"Ali Nosrat" Date: July 29, 2026 1:32:00 PM Subject: Re: Help with TD Step-up/Increase Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Ali Nosrat Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi counsel, thanks for your input; She got a part time job after the injury at CVS, but couldn't handle that either. Her employment law attorney got her a $50k settlement so I think she survived off of that for a little while. -Ali -----Original Message----- From: iodlaw@sbcglobal.net Sent: July 28, 2026 12:03:00 PM To: lawnet@lists.trialsmith.com Subject: Re: Help with TD Step-up/Increase What did she do for the 1 1/2 years off work before TTD started? Does her PI atty have any suggestions? Can you use the theory that she could have been working full time after she left and thus entitled to higher TTD?rate? -----Original Message----- From: lawyer@legalknights.com Sent: July 23, 2026 4:55:00 PM To: lawnet@lists.trialsmith.com Subject: Help with TD Step-up/Increase Hello, client was sexually and mentally abused by employer (acupuncturist) for about 5 years; she worked part time; resigned on 5/31/2023; psych QME put her on TTD starting 10/29/24; she now receives around $900 in TD, which she cannot survive on; can an argument be made that cost of living has dramatically increased during the past couple/few years and she should be entitled to more? She received EDD for a very short time based on a chiro that has not provided us with any reports and was non-compliant with SDT. I've done as much research as I can and I can't find anything that would support any arguments to get her more TD, which is unfortunate. Thank you in advance.
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The user's real question is simply looking for content related to 'injury' as a keyword. This message discusses a highly specific legal issue about employer credit rights in dual-capacity settlements involving UC Regents, sections 3861, 3600(b), and 3602 of the Labor Code, and third-party subrogation schemes. While workers' compensation cases inherently involve injuries, this message does not directly explain, describe, or address the concept of 'injury' in any substantive way. The word 'injury' is not meaningfully discussed — the message is focused on credit offsets, civil settlements, and statutory interpretation of subrogation statutes. A reader would not learn anything substantive about 'injury' from this message. It is at best tangentially related through the broader workers' compensation context.
"JOSEPH RICHARDS" Date: August 10, 2026 5:23:00 PM Subject: Re: Credit Issue - Employer-Paid Dual Capacity Settlement vs. §§ 3861/3600(b)/3602 - Any Guidance? Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Joseph Richards Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I’d start with, “Please serve my office with any petition for credit so that applicant may respond accordingly.” They may never file a petition. It’s not an issue until it’s an issue. JR From: Darin Powell (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2026 12:20 PM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: Re:[lawnet] Credit Issue - Employer-Paid Dual Capacity Settlement vs. §§ 3861/3600(b)/3602 - Any Guidance? List: lawnet Sent By: Darin Powell Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Assuming the facts are as stated — Regents is both the employer and the party that paid the civil settlement, the civil claim did not fall within one of the section 3602(b) exceptions or section 4558, and there was no WCAB-approved settlement of the workers’ compensation claim — I think the better argument is that Regents is not entitled to a credit. Check out Bazilius v. City of Torrance, 2025 Cal. Wrk. Comp. P.D. LEXIS ??, ADJ7688671/ADJ8112129, attached. My bet is that Section 3861 is probably the first place Defendant will go, but that statute is part of the third-party subrogation scheme beginning with section 3852. That statutory framework deals with recoveries against a “person other than the employer.” Here, the settlement was paid by Regents itself. That makes it difficult to characterize the $150,000 as a third-party recovery for purposes of section 3861. Section 3600(b) may actually help the applicant. The Legislature specifically addressed situations in which an employee obtains a civil recovery against the employer and provided for an offset where the civil recovery arises under the exceptions set out in section 3602(b) or section 4558. This case apparently does not fall within any of those exceptions. That supports the argument that the Legislature knew how to provide an employer with a credit for its own civil settlement when it wanted to do so, and did not create a general credit for every civil payment made by an employer. I would also resist the argument that general equitable principles against double recovery can fill that gap. The cases certainly recognize a policy against double recovery, but that principle ordinarily operates within the 3860 et seq . credit scheme; that being the case, I don't think that the WCAB can concoct the authority to create a credit where neither section 3861 nor section 3600(b) provides one. Defendant may also fall back on section 4909, but it is a much weaker argument. The $150,000 was presumably paid as consideration for a civil release, not as an advance of workers’ compensation benefits. Section 4909 is also discretionary, and its application should depend on what the payment was actually intended to compensate. Bazilius is useful here as well. Together with Steller and section 5001, it supports the proposition that an employer cannot use a privately negotiated civil release to dispose of workers’ compensation rights that are subject to WCAB jurisdiction and approval. It is not directly a credit case, but it reinforces the separation between a civil settlement and the workers’ compensation proceeding. Even if the WCAB ultimately finds that some credit is available, I do not think Defendant can simply claim a $150,000 credit. It would still have to establish the proper amount of the credit after taking into account attorney fees, costs, and potentially the nature and allocation of the damages covered by the civil settlement. For the statutory framework, I would probably start with Supreme Court case, i.e., Hendy v. Losse, 54 Cal.3d 723, and sections 3600(b), 3602, 3852 and 3861. I would then use Bazilius as the more recent WCAB authority showing that an employer’s civil settlement does not automatically determine rights within the compensation system. Another California Supreme Court Case of D’Angona v. County Of Los Angeles 27 Cal.3d 661, is also useful because it explains why the injury sustained during medical treatment may itself be a compensable consequence of the original industrial injury, while also illustrating the dual-capacity doctrine that the Legislature later restricted. I would definitely want to see the actual $150,000 release before taking a final position. I would look closely at whether workers’ compensation claims were expressly carved out, whether the settlement allocated any portion of the payment to medical expenses or wage loss, whether there is lien or indemnity language, and whether the release contains a section 1542 waiver. The actual wording of the agreement could have a significant impact on how strong the credit argument is. Best of luck. Darin Powell -- Mitchell & Powell A Professional Law Corp. (Phone) 559.733.9898 / 559.733.5655 (Fax) www.mitchellandpowell.com
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The user's real question is simply 'Looking for keyword: injury' — which appears to be a broad keyword search rather than a specific legal question. This message discusses a complex workers' compensation credit issue involving dual-capacity employer settlements, sections 3861, 3600(b), 3602, and 4909, and whether the University of California Regents is entitled to a credit for a civil settlement it paid. While the topic of workers' compensation inherently involves workplace injuries, this message does not directly address or explain the concept of 'injury' in any substantive way that would answer the user's query. The word 'injury' is not meaningfully discussed or defined here — the message is focused on credit and subrogation issues. It only tangentially relates to the keyword 'injury' through the general subject matter of workers' compensation law, making it not relevant to what the user is actually looking for.
Assuming the facts are as stated — Regents is both the employer and the party that paid the civil settlement, the civil claim did not fall within one of the section 3602(b) exceptions or section 4558, and there was no WCAB-approved settlement of the workers’ compensation claim — I think the better argument is that Regents is not entitled to a credit. Check out Bazilius v. City of Torrance , 2025 Cal. Wrk. Comp. P.D. LEXIS ??, ADJ7688671/ADJ8112129, attached. My bet is that Section 3861 is probably the first place Defendant will go, but that statute is part of the third-party subrogation scheme beginning with section 3852. That statutory framework deals with recoveries against a “person other than the employer.” Here, the settlement was paid by Regents itself. That makes it difficult to characterize the $150,000 as a third-party recovery for purposes of section 3861. Section 3600(b) may actually help the applicant. The Legislature specifically addressed situations in which an employee obtains a civil recovery against the employer and provided for an offset where the civil recovery arises under the exceptions set out in section 3602(b) or section 4558. This case apparently does not fall within any of those exceptions. That supports the argument that the Legislature knew how to provide an employer with a credit for its own civil settlement when it wanted to do so, and did not create a general credit for every civil payment made by an employer. I would also resist the argument that general equitable principles against double recovery can fill that gap. The cases certainly recognize a policy against double recovery, but that principle ordinarily operates within the 3 860 et seq . credit scheme ; that being the case, I do n't think that the WCAB can concoct the authority to create a credit where neither section 3861 nor section 3600(b) provides one. Defendant may also fall back on section 4909 , but it is a much weaker argument. The $150,000 was presumably paid as consideration for a civil release, not as an advance of workers’ compensation benefits. Section 4909 is also discretionary, and its application should depend on what the payment was actually intended to compensate. Bazilius is useful here as well. Together with Steller and section 5001, it supports the proposition that an employer cannot use a privately negotiated civil release to dispose of workers’ compensation rights that are subject to WCAB jurisdiction and approval. It is not directly a credit case, but it reinforces the separation between a civil settlement and the workers’ compensation proceeding. Even if the WCAB ultimately finds that some credit is available, I do not think Defendant can simply claim a $150,000 credit. It would still have to establish the proper amount of the credit after taking into account attorney fees, costs, and potentially the nature and allocation of the damages covered by the civil settlement. For the statutory framework, I would probably start with Supreme Court case, i.e., Hendy v. Losse, 54 Cal.3d 723, and sections 3600(b), 3602, 3852 and 3861. I would then use Bazilius as the more recent WCAB authority showing that an employer’s civil settlement does not automatically determine rights within the compensation system. Another California Supreme Court Case of D’Angona v. County Of Los Angeles 27 Cal.3d 661, is also useful because it explains why the injury sustained during medical treatment may itself be a compensable consequence of the original industrial injury, while also illustrating the dual-capacity doctrine that the Legislature later restricted. I would definitely want to see the actual $150,000 release before taking a final position. I would look closely at whether workers’ compensation claims were expressly carved out, whether the settlement allocated any portion of the payment to medical expenses or wage loss, whether there is lien or indemnity language, and whether the release contains a section 1542 waiver. The actual wording of the agreement could have a significant impact on how strong the credit argument is. Best of luck. Darin Powell -- Mitchell & Powell A Professional Law Corp. (Phone) 559.733.9898 / 559.733.5655 (Fax) www.mitchellandpowell.com
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The user's REAL question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message does not directly answer or explain anything specific about 'injury' as a legal concept, definition, or issue. While the message is from a workers' compensation context where injuries are implicitly involved, the actual substantive content is about procedural strategy for handling surveillance/sub rosa evidence at trial — specifically, whether to call an investigator under Evidence Code section 776 and Labor Code section 5708, and how to sequence surveillance evidence presentation. The word 'injury' may appear incidentally, but the message does not address the nature, definition, compensability, or any other substantive aspect of 'injury' that would answer a question about that topic. This is a tangential mention at best, not a direct answer to the real question.
In 2022, the WCAB addressed a similar issue in Espinoza v. Henkels and McCoy . I attached the decision for your review, Mike. As to calling the investigator under Evidence Code section 776, the potential issue is whether the investigator qualifies as a person "identified with" defendant under section 776(d). If the investigator is an employee or agent of the employer or carrier, the argument is stronger. If the investigator works for an outside investigation company, application of section 776 is less certain. For that reason, I would frame the request more broadly. I would ask the WCJ to take the surveillance evidence first, including examination of the investigator under Evidence Code section 776 and Labor Code section 5708, because defendant intends to rely upon the surveillance, the physicians have already reviewed it without changing their opinions, and addressing it first would streamline the trial. Espinoza is useful because the applicant there called the defense representative pursuant to section 776 in connection with video evidence. A 2025 panel decision, Wanyonyi , also discusses the treatment and significance of sub rosa evidence. I would emphasize judicial economy rather than applicant convenience. If defendant believes the surveillance is important enough to consume four hours of trial, the DA should identify the portions that allegedly matter, present those portions through the investigator, and explain what they supposedly establish. There is little reason to spend hours viewing cumulative footage that the medical evaluators have already reviewed and found insufficient to alter their opinions. The basic argument would be: deal with the surveillance first, put the investigator under oath, identify the allegedly significant portions, show those portions, and then allow the applicant to testify concerning what the Court has actually seen. That also takes much of the "gotcha" value out of the surveillance and places the burden where it belongs—on defendant to establish its actual significance. If the films truly show very little, addressing them early may ultimately work to the applicant's advantage. Best of luck. Darin Powell -- Mitchell & Powell A Professional Law Corp. (Phone) 559.733.9898 / 559.733.5655 (Fax) www.mitchellandpowell.com
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' which is an extremely broad and vague query. This message is a professional recommendation/review of a QME doctor (Dr. Ersno Eromo), discussing his deposition performance, his opinions on MMI timing, and his views on insurance company authorization practices. While the word 'injury' appears incidentally (e.g., 'date of injury'), the message does not directly answer or explain anything substantive about 'injury' as a legal concept, standard, or issue in workers' compensation law. The message is essentially a peer review of a medical expert witness and does not provide information that would help a reader learn anything specific about the topic of 'injury.' It only contains a passing, incidental reference to the term.
"Alexander Blackford" Date: August 07, 2026 12:15:00 PM Subject: DR. ERSNO EROMO - THUMBS UP Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: scaaa Sent By: Alexander Blackford Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I recently had a deposition with this doctor after the DA objected to his last report out of seven over the last four years. The DA was bouncing back and forth from one report to another and spent the first half of the deposition asking ridiculous questions (to waste time so I would not have much left for my own questions at the end) and usually in a confusing manner. Finally the DA started asking the real questions in the last 20 minutes. One of her questions was whether it was reasonable that the applicant was not MMI on a certain body part four years after the date of injury. He defended his opinion on this adequately but conceded some of the DA's points were valid. Then I asked him whether it was reasonable that an applicant's MMI date could be delayed due to the insurance company refusing to authorize necessary treatment. He said yes emphatically and went on to say he sees unreasonable RFA denials in every claim. Then HE asked to go off the record, which we did, and he spent another three minutes complaining about insurance companies and their authorization practices. He was a little susceptible to being pushed into bad answers by the DA but came right back when given the chance to clarify or correct by me. He generally writes good reports but could use some training on how to support his positions better, but he's only been a QME for seven years. Perhaps an invitation to a convention would be in order. Just a thought.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' While this message does contain the word 'injury' in passing (e.g., 'don't admit that the injury is accepted and what body parts are accepted'), it does not substantively explain, define, or address any specific legal question about injury in workers' compensation law. The message is primarily a discussion about AME/QME cover letter disputes, advocacy letter strategy, and whether to retain an AME after a defense attorney sent out a cover letter over objection. The incidental mention of 'injury' does not help a reader learn anything meaningful about the topic of 'injury' itself. This is a case of keyword overlap without substantive relevance to any meaningful legal question about injury.
"Kevin Bryant" Date: August 06, 2026 1:48:00 PM Subject: Re: DA sent out cover letter disregard of my objection. Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Kevin Bryant Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I agree. It likely won’t make a difference, especially if you clarify in your letter that the claim is accepted for XYZ body parts. Most AMEs/QMEs don’t really read the cover letters anyways. Sincerely, Kevin Bryant, Esq. Law Office of Kevin L. Bryant Mailing Address: P.O. Box 1033, Citrus Heights, CA 95611 Physical Address: 1100 Melody Ln., Suite 131, Roseville, CA 95678 P: (916) 520-4322 F: (916) 520-4322 E: kbryant@klbryantlaw.com From: Hollie Rutkowski (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2026 11:46 AM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: Re: [lawnet] DA sent out cover letter disregard of my objection. List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I think I would keep the AME. It's so hard to get an AME in the first place unless both parties feel they have little choice but to agree to a doctor. My answer might/would be different if the doctor was a PQME. I hate it when DAs do that - don't admit that the injury is accepted and what body parts are accepted in their advocacy letter. Some DAs have a standard letter that starts like that, questioning the injury and the body parts, then they fill in the middle with their version of the medical history, then the end is always the same - endlessly explaining AMA Guides strict rating, using the CVC, finding apportionment per LC 4663, 4664, Escobedo , etc. That doesn't stop me from writing my advocacy letter, waiting 20 days for DA to ignore it, then sending it out in the 20th day. I understand that once the AME report comes out, it is too late to object to the DA's language, but if the doctor is a decent AME, I would stick with that doctor as AME. Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > To: "Statewide List Service" < lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2026 3:57:53 PM Subject: Re: [lawnet] DA sent out cover letter disregard of my objection. List: lawnet Sent By: Alan Fenton Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Maybe trying to get out of going to that AME, put objections in writing and file for a hearing with a PP. af Alan H. Fenton, Esq. Law Offices of Alan H. Fenton, a PC 1334 Anacapa Street Santa Barbara, CA 93101 (t) 805-568-1800 (f) 805-966-7006 This message contains confidential/privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, communication, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited. Please inform us by replying. Thank You. From: Diep Nguyen (lawnet listserver) < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2026 3:53 PM To: Statewide List Service < lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > Subject: [lawnet] DA sent out cover letter disregard of my objection. List: lawnet Sent By: Diep Nguyen Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I have a bizarre situation. I have the case where defendant accepted the entire claim for all body parts applicant claims. TTD paid and we agreed to go to the AME In the DA cover letter to AME, she asked all the questions related to AOE/COE questions such as (1) applicant sustain any injury (2) Connection between applicant injury and applicant's work (3) were actual events of employment the predominant cause of the claim injury (4) Did the injury arise out of applicant's employment or occur during the course of applicant's employment. DA said these questions are needed to have the AME substantial evidence. I objected these line of four questions. DA advised me that she is going to send the cover letter out regardless of my objection and she asked me to file the DOR . This is a strange situation that never seen before. Any advise please. Diep Nguyen, Attorney At Law 1569 Lexann Avenue, Suite 110 San Jose, CA 95121 P: (408) 528 - 0151 F: (408) 528 - 0153
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message discusses a procedural dispute about a Defense Attorney (DA) sending out a cover letter despite an objection, and whether to keep an AME (Agreed Medical Examiner). While the word 'injury' appears incidentally (e.g., 'don't admit that the injury is accepted'), the message does not substantively explain, define, or answer any meaningful legal question about injury in workers' compensation law. It is focused on AME strategy and DA advocacy letter practices. A reader would not learn anything substantive about 'injury' as a legal concept or topic from this message — the term is merely mentioned in passing as part of a broader procedural discussion.
"M. Hollie Rutkowski" Date: August 06, 2026 1:46:00 PM Subject: Re: DA sent out cover letter disregard of my objection. Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I think I would keep the AME. It's so hard to get an AME in the first place unless both parties feel they have little choice but to agree to a doctor. My answer might/would be different if the doctor was a PQME. I hate it when DAs do that - don't admit that the injury is accepted and what body parts are accepted in their advocacy letter. Some DAs have a standard letter that starts like that, questioning the injury and the body parts, then they fill in the middle with their version of the medical history, then the end is always the same - endlessly explaining AMA Guides strict rating, using the CVC, finding apportionment per LC 4663, 4664, Escobedo , etc. That doesn't stop me from writing my advocacy letter, waiting 20 days for DA to ignore it, then sending it out in the 20th day. I understand that once the AME report comes out, it is too late to object to the DA's language, but if the doctor is a decent AME, I would stick with that doctor as AME. Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> To: "Statewide List Service" <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2026 3:57:53 PM Subject: Re: [lawnet] DA sent out cover letter disregard of my objection. List: lawnet Sent By: Alan Fenton Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Maybe trying to get out of going to that AME, put objections in writing and file for a hearing with a PP. af Alan H. Fenton, Esq. Law Offices of Alan H. Fenton, a PC 1334 Anacapa Street Santa Barbara, CA 93101 (t) 805-568-1800 (f) 805-966-7006 This message contains confidential/privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, communication, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited. Please inform us by replying. Thank You. From: Diep Nguyen (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2026 3:53 PM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: [lawnet] DA sent out cover letter disregard of my objection. List: lawnet Sent By: Diep Nguyen Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I have a bizarre situation. I have the case where defendant accepted the entire claim for all body parts applicant claims. TTD paid and we agreed to go to the AME In the DA cover letter to AME, she asked all the questions related to AOE/COE questions such as (1) applicant sustain any injury (2) Connection between applicant injury and applicant's work (3) were actual events of employment the predominant cause of the claim injury (4) Did the injury arise out of applicant's employment or occur during the course of applicant's employment. DA said these questions are needed to have the AME substantial evidence. I objected these line of four questions. DA advised me that she is going to send the cover letter out regardless of my objection and she asked me to file the DOR . This is a strange situation that never seen before. Any advise please. Diep Nguyen, Attorney At Law 1569 Lexann Avenue, Suite 110 San Jose, CA 95121 P: (408) 528 - 0151 F: (408) 528 - 0153
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' While this message is from a workers' compensation attorney and tangentially relates to workplace injury law (discussing a pain add-on rating and referencing a work injury practice), it does not provide substantive information that answers any specific question about 'injury.' The message is essentially a procedural inquiry asking whether a WCJ ruling was taken up on reconsideration and requesting published cases on pain add-ons greater than 3% — it does not itself answer or explain anything about injury in a meaningful or substantive way. The mere presence of the word 'injury' in the firm's email address (tim@weworkinjury.com) and in the Kids' Chance scholarship blurb does not constitute a substantive answer to the real question.
Morning Kenneth, Did the carrier take this up on Recon? Does anyone have any published cases where the WCAB (or higher court) has upheld a pain add on that is greater than 3%? Thanks in advance! -- Tim W. English, Esq. Founding Shareholder Wiesner English, P.C. 1660 Hamilton Ave., STE 206 San Jose, CA 95125 TEL: (408) 889-5598 FAX: (408) 889-1813 tim@weworkinjury.com Certified Specialist, Workers' Compensation Law Board of Legal Specialization, The State Bar of California If you or your family have suffered loss due to a work injury and have a child in or applying for college, please click here to learn about Kids' Chance scholarship opportunities . LEGAL NOTICE: This email contains privileged, confidential information only for the intended recipient. If you received in error, any dissemination, distribution or copy of this email message, contents, or attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify us by email then destroy any copies you possess. Until and unless an attorney-client agreement has been mutually executed by sender and recipient, no information contained in this email shall constitute legal advice.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message is primarily about Functional Capacity Evaluations (FCEs) — specifically recommendations for FCE providers (Alireza Bagherian and Rachel Feinberg) and advice on vetting defense-offered FCEs. While the word 'injury' appears once incidentally ('a very serious injury case of mine'), the message does not explain, define, or substantively address anything about injury in a way that would answer a question about injury. The mention of injury is purely incidental context within a discussion about FCE provider recommendations. A reader would not learn anything meaningful about 'injury' from this message.
cognitorsj@aol.com Date: July 31, 2026 2:43:00 PM Subject: Re: FCE Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I agree with Art. There's also Rachel Feinberg who does a complete, well written FCE. Mike Richter Campbell, CA In a message dated 7/31/2026 12:26:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org writes: List: lawnet Sent By: Arthur Csillag Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi Brian - Be very cautious about FCE's offered by the defense. Check out their backgrounds very carefully. Find out what others think of him. Get his CV. What's his experience like? How long has he been doing this? Has he worked for both sides? Find out his reputation. An FCE can make or break a case. If you can get Alireza Bagherian DC Rehabilitation Center 3580 California St #102, San Francisco 415-921-6200 I would use him - he was fantastic for me in a very serious injury case of mine. I was able to get the State Fund to agree to him. He came to LA from San Francisco to evaluate my client. I would even pay to have the client go to San Francisco to be evaluated by him, if need be. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151 T he Law Office Of Arthur Csillag strives to be conscientious about using as little paper as possible. While we cannot accept official service via fax or email, we welcome receiving all other communications via email. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email is confidential, privileged and/or may also contain attorney-client information or attorney work product. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, reliance, use, dissemination, distribution, copying or forwarding of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete all copies. On Fri, Jul 31, 2026 at 10:43 AM Brian Park (lawnet listserver) < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > wrote: List: lawnet Sent By: Brian Park Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings The QME states my client needs an FCE before providing a final MMI report. Defense has offered Mark Nario to conduct the FCE. I am unfamiliar with Mark Nario. Any comments? Any recommendations for a FCE in Southern California? Thank you.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' which is an extremely broad and non-specific query. This message is a referral request from an attorney seeking a foot and ankle surgeon in Sonoma County/North Bay Area for a client with a foot and ankle injury. While the word 'injury' appears in the message, the message does not provide any substantive legal information, case strategy, statutory interpretation, or procedural guidance related to injuries in a workers' compensation context. It is purely a doctor referral request and does not answer or explain anything substantive about the topic of 'injury' in a legal or workers' compensation sense. The message only incidentally mentions an injury as background context for the referral request.
"Timothy J. Egan" Date: July 24, 2026 5:49:00 PM Subject: Sonoma County Foot and Ankle Surgeon Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Timothy J. Egan Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I have a client who is treating at Kaiser for serious foot and ankle injury who needs to change treating doctors. Prefer Sonoma County but the North Bay Area for a good doctor will work as well. All recommendations and suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance to all who respond -- Timothy J. Egan, Attorney At Law Certified Specialist in Workers' Compensation Law 30 Fifth Street, Suite 100 Petaluma, CA 94952 Tele: (707) 789-9018 Fax (707) 789-9104 Confidentiality Notice - This message is intended only for the named recipient and may contain information that is confidential, subject to attorney-client privilege, the work-product doctrine and other privileges. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return email and delete the original message at once. Please be advised this email shall not be deemed evidence of the formation or existence of any attorney-client relationship between the recipient and this office, notwithstanding any legal opinions or legal counsel contained herein. This email shall not have the effect of establishing an attorney-client relationship unless the content expressly says otherwise. Further, nothing in this communication shall be deemed legal tax advice in any manner whatsoever.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' While this message is from a workers' compensation context and touches on disability-related topics (temporary total disability, permanent total disability, post-bariatric surgery skin issues, and a rating increase from 13% to 53%), it does not directly answer or explain any specific question about 'injury.' The message is primarily a discussion about a legal argument regarding the relationship between denied treatment and permanent total disability status, and a brief anecdote about a successful deposition strategy. It mentions injury-adjacent concepts but does not substantively address any defined question about the nature, definition, or handling of 'injury' in workers' compensation law. The keyword 'injury' appears only incidentally in the broader workers' compensation context, and a reader would not learn a specific answer to any defined question about injury from this message.
"CAAA" Date: July 23, 2026 4:39:00 PM Subject: Re: Alexis Dixon M.D. as AME? Reply to list Reply to sender Print Late to the game, I know. If a person is temporarily totally disabled, if the treatment they need to end that temporarily total disability is denied are they not permanently totally disabled? 😁 ¯\_( ツ )_/¯ If they are so restricted that they cannot work…. I just used that logic in a deposition and the rating when from 13% to 53% on post bariatric surgery skin issues. (thereafter, the QME referred a case to me) KJP Kimberley J Pryor, Esq. Law Offices of Kimberley J. 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But always learn to speak the truth, though. It should be a solid weapon to a positive progression. Henry Calvin Johnson, Jr. US Congress “To say nothing is saying something. You must denounce things you are against or one might believe that you support things you really do not.” ― Germany Kent “ It was once said that the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; and those who are in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy, and the handicapped.” Hubert H. Humphrey, United States politician (1911-1978) When someone shows you who they are, believe them, the first time. Maya Angelou The Bully intimidates and coerces the vulnerable. The Bullish is aggressively confident and self-assertive. "The world will be saved by the western woman.” — H.H. 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If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, or if you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail and delete the original message and any copies of it from your computer system . From: Jeffrey Linnetz (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2026 9:54 AM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: Re: [lawnet] Alexis Dixon M.D. as AME? List: lawnet Sent By: Jeffrey Linnetz Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Art, In my last advocacy letter I did advise Dr. Dixon that the treatment was denied and that the Applicant wanted her case resolved. Jeff Linnetz Los Angeles On Wed, Jul 8, 2026 at 9:51 AM Arthur Csillag (lawnet listserver) < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > wrote: List: lawnet Sent By: Arthur Csillag Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi Jeff - In situations where qme fails to MMI applicant, I have been successful in writing to the QME telling him or her that the applicant wishes to resolve their case and please defer any medical treatment to the future. I have also been successful in writing a joint letter to the QME saying essentially the same and have had some success with that. You may want to try a letter first and get a feel for what the QME would say in response. Good luck. Art PLEASE CONFIRM RECEIPT OF THIS EMAIL Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151 T he Law Office Of Arthur Csillag strives to be conscientious about using as little paper as possible. While we cannot accept official service via fax or email, we welcome receiving all other communications via email. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email is confidential, privileged and/or may also contain attorney-client information or attorney work product. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, reliance, use, dissemination, distribution, copying or forwarding of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete all copies. On Wed, Jul 8, 2026 at 9:45 AM Jeffrey Linnetz (lawnet listserver) < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > wrote: List: lawnet Sent By: Jeffrey Linnetz Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I have Dr. Dixon as a PQME. Lumbar surgery has been denied by U.R. Dr. Dixon says my client needs lumbar surgery. She has refused to find my client MMI. Despite being advised that the surgery has been denied she continues to opine that my client is not MMI. The injury is six years ago. I appreciate her advocacy but she is holding up any progress on the case. I have scheduled her deposition (her second in this case). In depo she held up strong against a miserable defense attorney. Jeff Linnetz Los Angeles On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 1:23 PM Andrea Herman (lawnet listserver) < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > wrote: List: lawnet Sent By: Andrea Herman Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Ive got a final AME report from her where my client fell off a container and broke his foot. She is an MD foot/ankle specialist but also knows other ortho. She diagnosed bilateral CTS as well and determined those to be work related, but because we limited her scope to the foot, she didnt apply any WPI. For the foot she gave 39% WPI without apportionment per Almaraz/Guzman . I know if we had used a podiatrist they would have said there is nothing in the Guides to apply. Her reasoning is very thorough and her staff is easy to work with. She herself is quality, and OrthoLegal has trained staff that are not outsourced, so you can actually get an appointment and confirm receipt of records without going through a black hole portal. Once I reached out to her directly about one of her docs that was listed on a panel to see if they were the right fit, and she assured me that the IW would be taken care of. Ive spoken with her before about her training and re-training/fixing bad habits of QMEs, and I am confident in her approach. A couple of her other docs are also fantastic - Evan Marlow, MD (PM&R, treater as well) and Sahil Vohra, DO (ortho). Im not familiar with any other doc on her list, but they are all on Ortho Legal's website here - https://ortholegalgroup.com/physicians-directory/ . Thank you, Law Office of Andrea R. Herman, PC Certified Legal Specialist in Workers' Compensation 2750 N. Bellflower Blvd, Suite 204 Long Beach, CA 90815 Ph: (424) 287-7335, Fax: (424) 533-5303 | www.lawarh.com mail: inbox@lawarh.com Please note: We are an environmentally friendly office and prefer service via email to inbox@lawarh.com , or fax. This firm does not accept correspondence, pleadings, or other documents to any other email address. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this email in error and delete this email from your system. On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 12:44 PM Brett A. Borah (lawnet listserver) < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > wrote: List: lawnet Sent By: Brett A. Borah Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I agree with the analysis of her from you and Ian. In talking to her, she seems like she would be good. BUT.... the real question is she worth giving a first shot to as an AME? Has anyone gotten a final report from her yet? Mad Dog On Tuesday, July 7, 2026 at 12:30:37 PM PDT, Alan Snitzer (lawnet listserver) < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > wrote: List: lawnet Sent By: Alan Snitzer Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I spent a lot of time talking to her, her husband, and marketer at the Maui seminar, and they really seem to want to help I/Ws. Besides apparently being a pretty good doc herself, she's also a very bright lady: she's built a stable of 100 ortho docs/QMEs and is trying to get on a bunch of AME lists. It sounds like she's worth a shot. LAW OFFICES OF ALAN B. SNITZER A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION 80 S. Lake Ave., Suite 800 Pasadena, California 91101-2585 T: 626-449-4300 F: 626-449-0830 Certified Specialist, Workers' Compensation Law Board of Legal Specialization, The State Bar of California Included in SUPER LAWYERS Southern California Edition 2015-2026 1998-2026 I spent a lot of time talking to her, her husband, and marketer at the Maui seminar, and they really seem to want to help I/Ws. Besides apparently being a pretty good doc herself, she's also a very bright lady: she's built a stable of 100 ortho docs/QMEs and is trying to get on a bunch of AME lists. It sounds like she's worth a shot. LAW OFFICES OF ALAN B. SNITZER A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION 80 S. Lake Ave., Suite 800 Pasadena, California 91101-2585 T: 626-449-4300 F: 626-449-0830 Certified Specialist, Workers' Compensation Law Board of Legal Specialization, The State Bar of California Included in SUPER LAWYERS Southern California Edition 2015-2026 1998-2026
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury,' but this message does not substantively address any specific legal question about injury in a meaningful way. The message briefly mentions a denied injury in the context of a PD (permanent disability) timing discussion related to industrial suicide claims, but this is highly tangential. The message is primarily about the calculation of PD start dates when TTD is involved and the equitable treatment of applicants when injury is denied until case resolution — it does not directly explain, define, or answer any substantive question about 'injury' as a legal concept or practical matter. The mention of 'injury' is incidental to a narrow procedural discussion about PD timing, and a reader would not learn anything substantive about injury from this message.
"Lawrence R. Whiting" Date: July 22, 2026 8:17:00 PM Subject: Re: Industrial Suicide Question Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Lawrence R. Whiting Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Let's assume that app is TTD and PD starts after P&S (or RTW). Later, the app is off on TTD again and when that stops PD starts again. This can be repeated many times. This scenario is clear. However, when injury is denied and no payment is made till the end of the case, the question of start of Pd arises. Why in the world should App #2 get less then App #!? -----Original Message----- From: iodlaw@sbcglobal.net Sent: July 22, 2026 8:07:00 PM To: lawnet@lists.trialsmith.com Subject: Re: Industrial Suicide Question However, if there is a "possible" dependent, you may be able to negotiate a settlement to keep the ER from paying the full death payment to the State. -----Original Message----- From: darin@mitchellandpowell.com Sent: July 21, 2026 2:49:00 PM To: lawnet@lists.trialsmith.com Subject: Re: Industrial Suicide Question My sentiments exactly, Mike. Other than as a vehicle for discovery, without a dependent the WC claim is questionable. dp -- Mitchell & Powell A Professional Law Corp. (Phone) 559.733.9898 / 559.733.5655 (Fax) www.mitchellandpowell.com
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message is a brief recommendation about a specific orthopedic panel physician (Eric Tan) acting as a treater for a foot/ankle injury case. While the word 'injury' appears incidentally in the message, the message does not explain, define, or answer any substantive legal question about injury — such as injury causation, compensability, legal standards, or any other meaningful legal topic related to 'injury' in workers' compensation law. The message only mentions a specific case outcome with a specific doctor, making it tangentially related at best. Without a more specific real question tied to 'injury,' this message provides no substantive informational value beyond a passing reference to the term.
Ibrahim: Eric Tan has done well by my client , a middle age Latina , including an arthroscopy for a foot/ankle injury but only as a treater.not QME. Richard Prieto
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message is about finding an orthopedic/pain management primary treating physician (PTP) in the Roseville/Sacramento/Yuba City area who accepts workers' compensation cases. While the word 'injury' appears incidentally in the context of an 'accepted injury' and 'accepted DOI,' the message does not explain, define, analyze, or answer any substantive question about injury in a workers' compensation legal context. It is a provider referral exchange between attorneys and does not provide any legal analysis, statutory interpretation, case strategy, or substantive information about the concept of injury. The mention of 'injury' is purely incidental and the message would not help a reader learn anything meaningful about the topic of injury in workers' compensation law.
"Manda Olmstead" Date: July 21, 2026 1:37:00 PM Subject: Re: Need Ortho/Pain Mgmt PTP in the Roseville, Sacramento, Yuba City area Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Manda Olmstead Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Arman, In addition to those previously mentioned, Center for Interdisciplinary Spine (CIS) has offices in Sacramento, Roseville, Stockton and Yuba City. They will accept older cases and do a good job. Carl Shin, MD is the CMO. Manda Olmstead Marysville -----Original Message----- From: arman@rklegalpc.com Sent: July 20, 2026 12:48:00 PM To: lawnet@lists.trialsmith.com Subject: Need Ortho/Pain Mgmt PTP in the Roseville, Sacramento, Yuba City area Dear listmates: My client is moving up north and he has an accepted DOI which is 5 years old. Most of the MPN providers refuse to accept this case and I desperately need a PTP in the area that accepts WC claims. Does anyone know of any providers who accept WC claims for an accepted injury? I appreciate any feedback. Arman Demirjian
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message appears to be a reply in a thread about credit issues, dual capacity settlements, and Labor Code sections 3861/3600(b)/3602. However, the message body is essentially empty — it contains only a quoted header from a prior message by Justin Dixon with no substantive content. There is no discussion of 'injury' in any meaningful or informative way, and nothing in this message would help a reader learn anything about the topic of injury in workers' compensation law. The message provides no substantive information whatsoever.
On Aug 10, 2026, at 11:41 AM, Justin Dixon (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> wrote:
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message discusses recommendations for specific doctors (Dr. Kramer for Internal Medicine and Dr. Fink) in the context of AME evaluations. It does not address or explain anything substantively related to 'injury' as a legal or factual topic. The message is a brief physician recommendation with no discussion of injury causation, injury types, compensability, or any other injury-related legal concept that would help answer the real question.
Dr. Kramer is the best for Internal Medicine. I have not used Fink recently but on those occasions I have he is applicant friendly.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message discusses a procedural situation involving a defense attorney sending a cover letter despite an objection, in a case where the defendant accepted the entire claim and TTD was paid. While a workers' compensation case inherently involves an injury, this message does not directly explain, describe, or answer anything substantive about 'injury' as a legal concept, type, mechanism, or issue. The message only tangentially relates to injury by virtue of being a workers' comp case. It does not help a reader learn anything meaningful about the topic of injury itself.
I have a bizarre situation. I have the case where defendant accepted the entire claim for all body parts applicant claims. TTD paid and we agreed to go to the AME
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message is a brief procedural reply from Arthur Csillag about scheduling an MSC and an expedited hearing in a workers' compensation case where a QME found causation and the defendant is objecting to treatment. While the underlying case implicitly involves a work injury, this message does not substantively discuss, explain, or answer anything meaningful about 'injury' as a legal concept, standard, or issue. It is purely a procedural/logistical update about case scheduling and contains no substantive legal analysis or information that would help a reader learn anything about injury-related legal questions. The mention of an injury context is entirely incidental.
Thanks Kimberly - I have already filed for an MSC a month ago which is scheduled for early September. I mistakenly thought I could file for a EH to by-pass the MSC, since defendant is now objecting to treatment. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' but this message does not substantively address the topic of injury in any meaningful legal or factual sense. The message is a discussion thread about FCE (Functional Capacity Evaluation) providers, specifically recommending Rachel Feinberg and criticizing Mark Nario as an FCE provider, along with a procedural dispute about mileage and lodging reimbursement under Reg 10786. While FCEs are tangentially related to workplace injuries, this message does not explain, define, analyze, or answer any question about 'injury' itself — it is purely a provider recommendation and case anecdote. There is no substantive content here that would help a reader learn anything about the concept or legal treatment of 'injury' in workers' compensation law.
cognitorsj@aol.com Date: July 31, 2026 2:50:00 PM Subject: Re: FCE Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Mad Dog, Who do you use south of the Pecos? Mike Richter Campbell In a message dated 7/31/2026 12:45:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org writes: List: lawnet Sent By: Brett A. Borah Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Rachel Feinberg is not only a PT, she is a DPT (doctor of PT). She works out of her father's (Steve Feinberg) office. In my opinion, she does the best FCE west of the Mississippi and north of the Pecos. Mad Dog On Friday, July 31, 2026 at 12:40:54 PM PDT, Hollie Rutkowski (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> wrote: List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I had a PQME specifically name Rachel Feinberg at the Feinberg Medical Center in Palo Alto as the FCE provider. The DA, who I am pretty sure acted on his own without his client's authority to be an a**hole, refused to authorize Rachel Feinberg. I got a Court Order that Defendant authorized Rachel Feinberg. The DA refused to provide my client, who had a five month old infant she was breast feeding, with mileage, room and board so her Mom could look after the baby while she was away all day with Rachel Feinberg. I had to put the Hotel and room service on my credit card. I am still trying to get reimbursed this med-legal expense because the Judge, as usual, is not familiar with Reg 10786. So, if you got the feeling that a DA will do just about anything to prevent a decent FCE provider from wrecking DA's case, I think Mark Nario is the last person that you want as the FCE provider. Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> To: "Statewide List Service" <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2026 12:25:31 PM Subject: Re: [lawnet] FCE List: lawnet Sent By: Arthur Csillag Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi Brian - Be very cautious about FCE's offered by the defense. Check out their backgrounds very carefully. Find out what others think of him. Get his CV. What's his experience like? How long has he been doing this? Has he worked for both sides? Find out his reputation. An FCE can make or break a case. If you can get Alireza Bagherian DC Rehabilitation Center 3580 California St #102, San Francisco 415-921-6200 I would use him - he was fantastic for me in a very serious injury case of mine. I was able to get the State Fund to agree to him. He came to LA from San Francisco to evaluate my client. I would even pay to have the client go to San Francisco to be evaluated by him, if need be. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151 T he Law Office Of Arthur Csillag strives to be conscientious about using as little paper as possible. While we cannot accept official service via fax or email, we welcome receiving all other communications via email. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email is confidential, privileged and/or may also contain attorney-client information or attorney work product. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, reliance, use, dissemination, distribution, copying or forwarding of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete all copies. On Fri, Jul 31, 2026 at 10:43 AM Brian Park (lawnet listserver) < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > wrote: List: lawnet Sent By: Brian Park Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings The QME states my client needs an FCE before providing a final MMI report. Defense has offered Mark Nario to conduct the FCE. I am unfamiliar with Mark Nario. Any comments? Any recommendations for a FCE in Southern California? Thank you.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message discusses procedural guidance about whether to file an Expedited Hearing versus a Priority Conference when a claim is denied. While it exists in a workers' compensation context where injuries are implicitly involved, it does not directly explain, define, or address anything substantive about 'injury' as a concept, type, mechanism, legal standard, or related doctrine. The message only tangentially relates to the topic of injury by virtue of being in a workers' comp forum. A reader would not learn anything meaningful about 'injury' from this message.
If the case is denied, you should not request an Expedited Hearing (EH). EHs are for accepted cases. I recommend filing a DOR for a Priority Conference. -- Jose Maldonado Jr., Esq. L.A. This email and any attached document contain confidential and/or privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please destroy this email and any attached document.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message is a brief, conversational reply from Arthur Csillag acknowledging a point about expedited hearings and AOE/COE (arising out of employment/course of employment) issues in the context of penalties and sanctions for claim denials. While workers' compensation inherently involves injury, this message does not directly explain, define, or substantively address the topic of 'injury' in any meaningful way. It is a short acknowledgment ('My bad!') that touches on procedural nuances of expedited hearings and liability, but provides no substantive information that would help a reader learn anything specific about injury as a legal concept or topic. The connection to 'injury' is only incidental, not direct.
Hollie - thank you. On clear liability cases, I get so few denials, I was thinking on a need for treatment issue, the WCJ, at an expedited can also try AOE/COE as well. My bad! Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' While the word 'injury' appears incidentally in this message (e.g., 'She got a part time job after the injury at CVS'), the message does not provide any substantive legal information about injury — its definition, legal standards, compensability, or any other meaningful legal content related to injury in workers' compensation law. The message is primarily a discussion about a client's financial difficulties, temporary disability (TD) step-up issues, and general commentary about workers' compensation benefit adequacy. The mere incidental mention of the word 'injury' in passing does not make this message relevant to a search seeking substantive information about injury.
"M. Hollie Rutkowski" Date: July 29, 2026 1:39:00 PM Subject: Re: Help with TD Step-up/Increase Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Ali, you never said a truer word. How many of your clients have every told you they are delighted with the amount WC is paying, they would not ask for a penny more? You can't get involved with your client's finances. It is too much responsibility for one person - to make sure that your clients get the WC benefits to which they are entitled and also manage their finances for them so they don't go broke. As far as I am concerned, everybody goes broke on WC. Whenever a client of mine complains that they aren't getting enough money to pay their bills, I ask them, "Did you have enough money to pay your bills before your were injured?" Which answer is invariably, "No." (My niche is representing the working poor.) Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> To: "Statewide List Service" <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2026 11:28:32 AM Subject: Re:[lawnet] Help with TD Step-up/Increase List: lawnet Sent By: Ali Nosrat Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hi Hollie, thank you for your input, her spouse was helping her before (out of courtesy?) but after the relationship with her employer, those have dried up. She got a part time job after the injury at CVS, but couldn't handle that either. Regarding inflation, that's a good point. I'll talk to her about it, but all she wants me to do at this point is to get her more money. -----Original Message----- From: Hollie@TCLC.org Sent: July 24, 2026 11:25:00 AM To: lawnet@lists.trialsmith.com Subject: Re: Help with TD Step-up/Increase Do you have her wage statement from 5/31/22 - 5/31/23? I think you may not have all the facts. If IW was able to survive on her AWE when she was working, her TD rate should not be that much less than her Net income when she was working. If she could not survive on her AWE while she was working, where did her extra income come from to bring her up to wages she could survive on? Concurrent employment? Roommate? Child support? Family? (Recall that inflation rate in May 2022 was quite high, 8.6% over the last twelve months, down to 4.0% in May 2023.) Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. [ https://the-compensation-law-center.business.site/ ' The Compensation Law Center ] Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> To: "Statewide List Service" <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2026 2:55:00 PM Subject: [lawnet] Help with TD Step-up/Increase List: lawnet Sent By: [ mailto:lawyer@legalknights.com ' Ali Nosrat ] [ mailto:lawyer@legalknights.com?subject=Re%3A%20Help%20with%20TD%20Step-up%2FIncrease ' Reply To Sender ] [ mailto:lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org?subject=Re%3A%20Help%20with%20TD%20Step-up%2FIncrease ' Reply To List ] [ http://www.caaa.org/index.cfm?pg=search ' Search ] [ http://www.caaa.org/index.cfm?pg=listviewer&lsAction=listSettings ' Settings ] Hello, client was sexually and mentally abused by employer (acupuncturist) for about 5 years; she worked part time; resigned on 5/31/2023; psych QME put her on TTD starting 10/29/24; she now receives around $900 in TD, which she cannot survive on; can an argument be made that cost of living has dramatically increased during the past couple/few years and she should be entitled to more? She received EDD for a very short time based on a chiro that has not provided us with any reports and was non-compliant with SDT. I've done as much research as I can and I can't find anything that would support any arguments to get her more TD, which is unfortunate. Thank you in advance.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message is a brief thank-you reply in a thread about bifurcating cases to settle one first, and merely states that 'the COVID case is a specific injury.' This passing mention of injury does not explain, answer, or substantively address any meaningful question about injury in a workers' compensation context. The message provides no educational, legal, or practical information about injury that would help a reader learn anything useful. It is essentially a one-line acknowledgment that only tangentially references the concept of injury without elaborating on it in any meaningful way.
Thank you all for the feedback. The COVID case is a specific injury.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message is a referral request from an attorney seeking an orthopedic or physical medicine doctor near Eagle Rock for a car crash/workers' compensation case that involves personal injury. While the word 'injury' appears incidentally in the context of describing the case type ('personal injury'), the message does not explain, analyze, or answer any substantive legal question about injury — it is simply a doctor referral request. A reader would not learn anything meaningful about the legal concept or topic of 'injury' from this message. It is only tangentially related through keyword overlap, not substantive content.
Good morning everyone, I had a car crash that is also a work comp case referred to me. The client lives in Eagle Rock. Can anyone suggest a good ortho or physical medicine doctor that does both work comp and personal injury that can write decent reports within 15 miles of Eagle Rock? Thank you. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message is a listserv thread about recommending a foot and ankle surgeon in Sonoma County/North Bay Area for a workers' compensation client. While the word 'injury' appears incidentally (the original message mentions a 'serious foot and ankle injury'), the message does not provide any substantive legal information, analysis, or answers related to the concept of injury in a workers' compensation context. It is purely a physician referral exchange with no legal content that would help answer any meaningful question about 'injury' as a legal topic. The mention of injury is purely incidental to the subject matter of the thread.
"William Ferchland" Date: July 27, 2026 11:11:00 AM Subject: Re: Sonoma County Foot and Ankle Surgeon Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: William Ferchland Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hey Tim, Thomas Jordan, DPM, in Santa Rosa, is a great foot/ankle surgeon in the North Bay. He's gone great work for my clients and I've seen him on various MPNs. More info: https://balancehealth.com/provider/thomas-jordan-dpm/ -----Original Message----- From: eganlawlist@sonic.net Sent: July 24, 2026 5:49:00 PM To: lawnet@lists.trialsmith.com Subject: Sonoma County Foot and Ankle Surgeon I have a client who is treating at Kaiser for serious foot and ankle injury who needs to change treating doctors. Prefer Sonoma County but the North Bay Area for a good doctor will work as well. All recommendations and suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance to all who respond-- Timothy J. Egan, Attorney At Law Certified Specialist in Workers' Compensation Law 30 Fifth Street, Suite 100 Petaluma, CA 94952 Tele: (707) 789-9018 Fax (707) 789-9104 Confidentiality Notice - This message is intended only for the named recipient and may contain information that is confidential, subject to attorney-client privilege, the work-product doctrine and other privileges. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return email and delete the original message at once. Please be advised this email shall not be deemed evidence of the formation or existence of any attorney-client relationship between the recipient and this office, notwithstanding any legal opinions or legal counsel contained herein. This email shall not have the effect of establishing an attorney-client relationship unless the content expressly says otherwise. Further, nothing in this communication shall be deemed legal tax advice in any manner whatsoever.
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message discusses a QME panel selection decision between two orthopedic doctors (Stavrakis and Nussbaum), with the author sharing personal experience about Dr. Nussbaum's unpredictability. While the message briefly references a 'car crash/broken ankle case' which involves an injury in passing, it does not directly explain, define, or address the topic of 'injury' in any substantive legal sense. The mention of an injury is purely incidental to the main subject of the message, which is a recommendation about which QME panelist to strike. A reader would not learn anything meaningful about the topic of 'injury' from this message.
Hi Jignesh - Nussbaum is unpredictable. I have had some good results, but also some bad ones. Interestingly I had him on a personal jury trial many years back in Van Nuys and came out with a decent verdict in a car crash/broken ankle case. Call me privately for more info. Good luck. Art Arthur Csillag, Esq. acsillaglaw@gmail.com Law Office Of Arthur Csillag 2410 W. Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA 91506 O (818) 558-7225 / Cell (818) 219-4264 / Fx (818) 558-7151
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This message does not help answer the user's question about 'injury.' The message body appears to be empty or contains only a quoted header reference to a prior message from Jacob Basta about 'Compensable Consequences and Subrogation Qs.' There is no substantive content visible in the message that addresses the topic of injury in any meaningful way. While the subject line references compensable consequences (which can relate to injury in workers' compensation law), the actual message body provides no information, analysis, or discussion that would help a reader learn anything about injury. A message with no substantive content cannot be considered relevant regardless of its subject matter.
On Jul 23, 2026, at 6:58 AM, Jacob Basta (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> wrote:
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message discusses procedural strategy at an Expedited Hearing regarding disputed body parts, bad faith tactics, duty to investigate, and waiver issues in a workers' compensation context. While the topic of disputed body parts in a workers' comp case is loosely related to injury, the message does not directly explain, define, or address any substantive question about 'injury' itself. It merely touches on a specific case situation without providing any information that would help someone learn the answer to a question about injury. The message is tangentially related at best and does not directly answer any meaningful question about injury.
I'm assuming the DA has no evidence to rebut the PQME report but their client is still not accepting the additional body parts just because. I would proceed to the Expedited trial on the issue of medical treatment to disputed body parts. At my board I would not be able to raise any other issues, such as bad faith tactics, violation of duty to investigate, waiver, unreasonable delay/denial at an Expedited. But if your Board is one that allows it, I would raise them all. Miranda Freitas Condra (she/her) Attorney at Minaie Law Group, APC A 402 W Broadway, Suite 400, San Diego, CA 92101 C (949) 402-7111 Mailing Address 34 Executive Park, Suite 250, Irvine, CA 92614 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee(s), and any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or copying of the information is prohibited. Should this message be received in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and all attachments. Please advise us immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Thank you. Pursuant to applicable federal regulations, we are required to inform you that any advice contained in this communication is not intended to be used nor can it be used for purposes of: (1) avoiding tax penalties or (2) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed above.
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message is an incomplete fragment from an expedited hearing discussion, containing only the opening line 'I would suggest you win the argument on two bases:' with no further content. It does not provide any substantive information about injury — no discussion of injury types, definitions, mechanisms, legal standards, or any other content that would help answer a question about injury. The message is truncated and provides no meaningful information on any topic.
I would suggest you win the argument on two bases:
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The message body appears to be essentially empty — it contains only a quoted header attributing a prior message to Jacob Basta but includes no substantive content whatsoever. The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury,' and even under a generous interpretation, this message provides no information, analysis, discussion, or context relating to injury or any other topic. There is nothing here that would help a reader learn anything about injury in a workers' compensation context.
On Jul 23, 2026, at 6:58 AM, Jacob Basta (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> wrote:
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message appears to be a forwarded listserv post about an 'Industrial Suicide Question,' which while tangentially related to workers' compensation injury topics, provides no substantive content visible in the message body — only headers and routing information are shown. There is no actual message content that addresses any specific question about injury in workers' compensation law. Without substantive content, this message cannot help answer the user's question about injury.
From: Beatriz Trejo (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2026 5:10 PM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: [lawnet] Industrial Suicide Question
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message does not directly address or explain anything about injury in a substantive legal sense. The message is simply a brief thank-you note from attorney Bret Graham acknowledging help received from listserv members, along with an attachment of a trial brief related to a defense objection about sending scientific articles to a QME. While the underlying case likely involves a workers' compensation injury, the message itself contains no substantive discussion of injury — its nature, causation, legal standards, or any other aspect that would help answer a question about injury. It is essentially an administrative/courtesy post with no substantive legal content visible in the message body itself.
"Bret Graham" Date: July 20, 2026 8:09:00 PM Subject: Re: DEFENSE OBJECTS TO MY SENDING SCIENTIFIC ARTICLES TO QME - WCJ WANTS TRIAL BRIEF Reply to list Reply to sender Print Attachments: applicants trial brief re scientific articles to qme redacted_redacted.pdf (263 K) List: lawnet Sent By: Bret Graham Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Thanks to those who helped me out with their great ideas and support. Here is the brief I filed. Hopefully, it will help the community in the future the next time a defense atty pulls this nonsense. Bret Graham, Esq. Nava Graham Montebello 420 N. Montebello Blvd., Ste 301 Montebello, CA 90640 (323) 888-1818 Ph (323) 888-7788 Fax (213) 590-1388 cell
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' While this message does contain a passing reference to a 'brain injury ADR case' in the embedded original post, the message itself is a brief administrative exchange about finding neuro-ophthalmologist or neuro-optometrist AMEs (Agreed Medical Examiners) in California. It does not explain, analyze, or answer any substantive legal question about injury — it is simply an attorney requesting referrals for expert witnesses. The mere incidental mention of 'brain injury' as case context does not make this message substantively responsive to a search for information about injury in a workers' compensation legal context. A reader would not learn anything meaningful about injury law, injury claims, or injury-related legal issues from this message.
cognitorsj@aol.com Date: July 20, 2026 4:32:00 PM Subject: Re: SECOND REQUEST: Any Neuro-ophthalmologist or Neuro-optometrist AME's out there? Reply to list Reply to sender Print List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Thank you again. That's one. I'm looking for three. Mike Richter Campbell In a message dated 7/20/2026 2:24:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org writes: List: lawnet Sent By: Esther Oz Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Dr Carl Garbus Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2026, at 2:13 PM, Mike Richter (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> wrote: List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings From: listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org Reply-to: lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org To: lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org Sent: 7/8/2026 10:40:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time Subject: [lawnet] Any Neuro-ophthalmologist or Neuro-optometrist AME's out there? List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hey All: Have a brain injury ADR case. I need a list of neuro-optometrists or neuro-ophthalmologists to send to Mr. Larres so we can get started on our own IME's when he says no. Any suggestions, anywhere in CA? Thanks. Mike Richter Campbell
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This message does not help answer the user's question about 'injury.' The message contains only a signature block with the attorney's name, phone number, and a subject line referencing a NorCal unrepresented occupational medicine panel. There is no substantive content, discussion, or information about injury of any kind. The message body is essentially empty and provides no useful information whatsoever on the topic of injury.
Michael P. Georgariou II Attorney at Law Phone: (831) 449-8011
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The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message is a reply in a thread titled 'DR. ERSNO EROMO - THUMBS UP,' which appears to be a recommendation or endorsement of a medical professional. The message body contains no substantive content — it is essentially empty, showing only a quoted header from a forwarded email with no actual text addressing any topic related to injury. There is nothing in this message that would help a reader learn anything about injury in the context of workers' compensation law.
On Aug 7, 2026, at 9:14 AM, Alexander Blackford (scaaa listserver) <listsender-scaaa@lawnet.caaa.org> wrote:
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This message does not help answer the user's question about 'injury.' The message is a brief reply from Diep Nguyen stating she will keep the AME (Agreed Medical Examiner), in response to a thread about a Defense Attorney sending out a cover letter despite an objection. There is no substantive discussion of injury — its nature, causation, legal standards, or any related legal analysis. The message contains no information that would help a reader learn anything about the topic of injury in a workers' compensation context.
Thank you. I will keep the AME.
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This message does not help answer the user's question about 'injury.' The message is a recommendation for Rachel Feinberg, a Doctor of Physical Therapy (DPT), who performs Functional Capacity Evaluations (FCEs) out of her father Steve Feinberg's office. While FCEs are sometimes used in workers' compensation cases involving injury, this message contains no substantive information about injury — its nature, causation, legal standards, treatment, or any other aspect. It is purely a professional referral/recommendation and does not address the topic of injury in any meaningful way.
Rachel Feinberg is not only a PT, she is a DPT (doctor of PT). She works out of her father's (Steve Feinberg) office. In my opinion, she does the best FCE west of the Mississippi and north of the Pecos.
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This message does not answer the user's question about 'injury.' The message contains only an email signature block and legal disclaimer boilerplate from John C. Dunn, Esq. There is no substantive legal content whatsoever — no discussion of injuries, workers' compensation principles, case law, or any other legal analysis. While the subject line references a death benefit case involving a car accident and cocaine, the body of the message itself contains zero substantive information that would help answer any question about injury. It is purely a signature/disclaimer block with no analytical or informational value.
John C. Dunn, Esq. Attorney at Law Law Offices of John C. Dunn 1550 The Alameda Ste. 160 San Jose, CA 95126 Telephone: 408.351.1085 | Facsimile: 408.904.5966 j ohn@jcdunnlaw.com NOTICE: The information contained in this email message is confidential and may also contain privileged attorney-client information or work product. The information is intended only for use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received the email message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. To comply with U.S. Treasury regulations, we advise you that any discussion of Federal tax issues in this communication was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any person (i) for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed by the Internal Revenue Service, or (ii) to promote, market or recommend to another party any matter addressed herein. Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, nor anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic signature unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in this message.
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This message contains only a legal disclaimer/signature block from John C. Dunn, Esq. with no substantive content whatsoever. The user's real question is looking for information related to 'injury,' but this message provides zero substantive legal discussion, analysis, or information on any topic. It is entirely a boilerplate email footer with contact information and standard legal/tax disclaimers. There is nothing here that would help answer any question about injury in the context of workers' compensation law.
John C. Dunn, Esq. Attorney at Law Law Offices of John C. Dunn 1550 The Alameda Ste. 160 San Jose, CA 95126 Telephone: 408.351.1085 | Facsimile: 408.904.5966 j ohn@jcdunnlaw.com NOTICE: The information contained in this email message is confidential and may also contain privileged attorney-client information or work product. The information is intended only for use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received the email message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. To comply with U.S. Treasury regulations, we advise you that any discussion of Federal tax issues in this communication was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any person (i) for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed by the Internal Revenue Service, or (ii) to promote, market or recommend to another party any matter addressed herein. Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, nor anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic signature unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in this message.
AI Analysis:
The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' which appears to be a broad search for substantive content related to injury in a workers' compensation legal context. This message is about a specific physician named David Baum whose medical license has been suspended and who allegedly failed to disclose that fact. The word 'injury' only appears incidentally in the attorney's email signature ('InjuryLawFirmSoCal.com' and 'Your Southern California Injury Attorney') — not in any substantive legal discussion. The message contains no substantive information about injury law, injury claims, injury analysis, or any legal topic that would help answer a question about 'injury' in a workers' compensation context. It is a brief case-specific note about a physician's license suspension and does not provide any meaningful legal content responsive to the real question.
I just had him replaced on a case. His license to practice medicine is suspended, and I do not believe he disclosed it. -- Alexander J. Leigh Founder & Managing Attorney Alexander@LeighLawFirm.com P: 619.202.7142 P: 310-626-4449 F: 619.350.1972 **PLEASE BE ADVISED, WE DO NOT ACCEPT SERVICE OF ANY DOCUMENTS TO THIS EMAIL. DOCUMENTS MUST BE SERVED AT Service@LeighLawFirm.com ** SAN DIEGO 3160 Camino Del Rio S. Ste 300B, San Diego, CA 92108 WESTLAKE VILLAGE 3625 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd. Ste 214, Westlake Village CA 91362 InjuryLawFirmSoCal.com Los Angeles | San Diego Your Southern California Injury Attorney. This e-mail may contain or attach privileged, confidential or protected information intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any review or use of it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are required to notify the sender, then delete this email and any attachment from your computer and any of your electronic devices where the message is stored.
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This message does not help answer the user's question about 'injury.' The message consists of only a brief acknowledgment ('Thanks for the write up.') in response to a discussion about an ortho panel. It contains no substantive information about injury — no legal analysis, no case discussion, no statutory interpretation, and no practical guidance. A reader would learn nothing about injury from this message.
Thanks for the write up.
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This message does not help answer the user's question about 'injury.' The message is an administrative inquiry from a billing specialist/lien negotiator asking whether a cover letter will be sent before a medical appointment, after receiving medical records. It contains no substantive legal discussion about injury — no analysis, explanation, or information that would help someone understand anything meaningful about the topic of injury in a workers' compensation context. The message is purely a clerical/administrative communication and provides no relevant legal content whatsoever.
Good morning, We are in receipt of medical records for the above applicant's appointment on Tuesday but we did not receive a cover letter. Will you be sending one before the appointment? -- Kind Regards, Jessica Roger Billing Specialist / Lien Negotiator Ph# 949-333-1586 Fax# 888-838-3749
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message does not directly address, explain, or answer anything substantively related to 'injury' as a legal concept or topic. The message is about a specific procedural issue regarding Permanent Total Disability (PTD) indemnity, State Average Weekly Wage (SAWW) annual increases, and the Brower en banc decision — none of which directly answers or explains anything about 'injury.' The word 'injury' does not even appear in this message. This is entirely about indemnity rate adjustments and is not relevant to the user's search for information about injury.
"Dane P. Gilliam" Date: July 27, 2026 12:08:00 PM Subject: Re: Memory Fail - Seminar about IR failing to add SAWW amounts annually. Reply to list Reply to sender Print Brower is the case I believe you are thinking of. https://www.dir.ca.gov/wcab/EnBancdecisions2014/BrowerW.pdf DANE P. GILLIAM Trial Attorney Office: (949) 870-3800 x 213 Fax: (949) 732-6291 Email: dgilliam@bentleymore.com 4931 Birch Street Newport Beach, CA 92660 This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential and/or proprietary information (and, in some cases information protected by either or both doctrines of attorney-client privilege and attorney work-product), and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity or entities to whom the communication is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, and delete and destroy all copies of the original message. From: Mike Richter (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2026 10:01 AM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [lawnet] Memory Fail - Seminar about IR failing to add SAWW amounts annually. List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Thank you Hollie But what about a carrier who simply does not increase the PTD in accordance with the annual SAWW increases? Mike In a message dated 7/27/2026 9:23:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org writes: List: lawnet Sent By: Hollie Rutkowski Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings This is the law porion of the Rader case - Rader v. Ticketmaster Corp., care of Robert Monroe; State Comp. Ins. Fund, ADJ7138762 (VNO), Mar. 17, 2025, Opinion Granting Reconsideration 53 CWCR 41: The issue . . . is whether a reduction in PD indemnity relating to attorney fees falls within the Board’s jurisdiction over prior orders. According to Hodge v. WCAB (1981) 123 CA3d 50, 9 CWCR 204, 46 CCC 1034, “collateral changes” may be made to an award as long as the “merits of the basic decision” were not altered, nor the amount of benefits. The present panel notes that Hodge allowed a credit to an employer after a subsequent civil lawsuit was finalized relating to medical treatment applicant had obtained for his industrial injury more than five years after the injury date. The present panel further discussed Garcia v. IAC (1958) 162 CA2d 761, 23 CCC 149, in which a lien for attorney’s fees was permitted when new attorneys were substituted more than five years after the date of injury and successfully assisted an injured worker in resisting a petition to reopen filed by the Subsequent Injuries Fund (now Subsequent Injuries Benefits Trust Fund). The present commissioners reasoned the issue for them to decide is whether a reduction in PD indemnity relating to attorney fees falls within the Board’s jurisdiction over prior orders or if it is “tantamount to an alteration or amendment of the Award more than five years from the date of injury.” Further, assuming jurisdiction, the issue becomes whether the credit for the commutation relating to attorney fees “precludes further reduction in applicant’s current [PD] payment for attorney fees.” Accordingly, the Board panel granted applicant’s reconsideration petition, while ordering that a final decision after reconsideration be deferred pending further review of the merits of the petition and of the entire record in light of the applicable statutory and decisional law. Editor’s Note: It is unclear why the panel felt the need for deferral of a final decision, as there did not appear to be any added evidence needed to determine whether the fee should be terminated. It would seem to be a question of law and not of fact. The final decision over these open-ended fee situations will be of great interest to the compensation community. A practical solution might be the statement in a stipulated settlement that the attorney fees awarded are to terminate when their calculated payment comes to an end or when applicant is no longer entitled to PD payments, whichever i s sooner. Hollie Rutkowski, RN, JD, MBA, Esq. The Compensation Law Center Sacramento, CA 95834 T:916.974.0424 F:916.974.0428 From: "Matthew Verduzco, lawnet listserver" < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > To: "Statewide List Service" < lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2026 10:50:05 AM Subject: Re: [lawnet] Memory Fail - Seminar about IR failing to add SAWW amounts annually. List: lawnet Sent By: Karina Delzell Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings I think you’re looking for RADER V. TICKETMASTER CORPORATION (2025) 2025 CAL. WRK. COMP. P.D. LEXIS 86 Karina Kowler Delzell Brown & Delzell, LLP Certified Specialist in Workers' Compensation Law 999 Fifth Avenue, Suite 430 San Rafael, CA 94901 415-925-9212 From: Mike Richter (lawnet listserver) < listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2026 9:53 AM To: Statewide List Service < lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org > Subject: [lawnet] Memory Fail - Seminar about IR failing to add SAWW amounts annually. List: lawnet Sent By: Mike Richter Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Hey All I'm having a memory fail. At what conference did we learn about how to penalize a carrier for failing to increase the annual SAWW amounts in a case with a total disability award? I've been looking and haven't been able to find it. When was that? It was a great program though. Mike Richter Campbell
AI Analysis:
The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message does not address the topic of injury in any substantive way. It is simply a recommendation for orthopedic or pain medicine doctors near Eagle Rock/Sherman Oaks for a specific case referral. While orthopedic and pain medicine doctors are tangentially associated with injuries in workers' compensation practice, this message provides no information that would help answer any question about injury — its nature, legal definition, compensability, treatment, or any other substantive aspect. The message is a brief, case-specific referral suggestion with no analytical or informational content relevant to the concept of injury.
Perhaps Nassos (ortho) or Kohan (pain med) at S. Hill Street or Sherman Oaks? Not 100% certain if they do PI but they might. Both locations might be right around the 15 mile radius.
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This message does not help answer the user's question about 'injury.' It is a brief acknowledgment from Daniel Chin thanking someone named Paul for raising a point about a concurrent civil claim in a specific case involving a 'reverse SW misconduct claim.' The message contains no substantive information about injury — its nature, causation, legal standards, compensability, or any other aspect relevant to the topic of injury in workers' compensation law. It is merely a courteous reply noting that the author will coordinate with a civil attorney, with no educational or informational value regarding the real question.
Thank you for raising that point, Paul. Yes there is also a concurrent civil claim So I will tread carefully and discuss with the civil attorney. Thank you
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The message body appears to be empty or contains no substantive content beyond a quoted header attribution line. The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury,' and this message provides no information whatsoever about injury — or any other topic. There is no substantive text to analyze, making it impossible for a reader to learn anything relevant to the question. The subject line references a 'reverse SW misconduct claim,' which is unrelated to a general inquiry about injury. This message does not answer the real question.
On Jul 24, 2026, at 10:28 AM, Daniel Chin (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> wrote:
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The user's real question is a broad keyword search for 'injury.' This message does not address any legal question about injury — it is a brief thank-you reply from an attorney who received recommendations for an orthopedic/pain management primary treating physician (PTP) in the Sacramento/Roseville/Yuba City area. The message contains no substantive legal discussion, analysis, or information about injury (e.g., injury causation, compensability, specific injury types, legal standards, etc.). The only tangential connection is that the underlying thread involves a workers' compensation case with an accepted date of injury, but the message itself provides no information that would help answer any question about 'injury.' It is essentially a courtesy acknowledgment with no substantive content.
arman@rklegalpc.com Date: July 21, 2026 2:54:00 PM Subject: Re: Need Ortho/Pain Mgmt PTP in the Roseville, Sacramento, Yuba City area Reply to list Reply to sender Print Thank you all for your feedback. I appreciate it. Respectfully, Arman Demirjian, Esq. 425 W. Broadway, Suite 225 Glendale, California 91204 www.rklegalpc.com T. 323.744.4124 F. 323.763.7770 The information contained in this e-mail correspondence may contain information that is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law, intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the receiver of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply email or telephone, and delete the message from your system. Thank you. “ Yeah, well, you know, that’s just like your opinion, man. ” – The Dude From: Manda Olmstead (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2026 11:37 AM To: Statewide List Service <lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> Subject: Re:[lawnet] Need Ortho/Pain Mgmt PTP in the Roseville, Sacramento, Yuba City area List: lawnet Sent By: Manda Olmstead Reply To Sender Reply To List Search Settings Arman, In addition to those previously mentioned, Center for Interdisciplinary Spine (CIS) has offices in Sacramento, Roseville, Stockton and Yuba City. They will accept older cases and do a good job. Carl Shin, MD is the CMO. Manda Olmstead Marysville -----Original Message----- From: arman@rklegalpc.com Sent: July 20, 2026 12:48:00 PM To: lawnet@lists.trialsmith.com Subject: Need Ortho/Pain Mgmt PTP in the Roseville, Sacramento, Yuba City area Dear listmates: My client is moving up north and he has an accepted DOI which is 5 years old. Most of the MPN providers refuse to accept this case and I desperately need a PTP in the area that accepts WC claims. Does anyone know of any providers who accept WC claims for an accepted injury? I appreciate any feedback. Arman Demirjian
AI Analysis:
The user's real question is a keyword search for 'injury.' This message is a reply thread about finding a Neuro-ophthalmologist or Neuro-optometrist AME (Agreed Medical Examiner), and the visible content of the message body appears to be empty or truncated — only a quoted header from a prior message is shown. There is no substantive content addressing the topic of 'injury' in any meaningful legal or factual sense. The message does not explain, define, or discuss injury in a way that would help answer the user's real question. It is not relevant.
On Jul 20, 2026, at 2:13 PM, Mike Richter (lawnet listserver) <listsender-lawnet@lawnet.caaa.org> wrote:
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This message does not help answer the user's question about 'injury.' It is a brief courtesy reply from Daniel Chin thanking someone named Hollie and agreeing with a suggestion to 'wait until the last day.' There is no substantive discussion of any injury-related legal topic, workers' compensation principles, or any other content that would provide meaningful information about injury. The message is purely a social/acknowledgment exchange with no legal substance whatsoever.
Thank you for the info, Hollie, and yes, that would be a great idea to wait until the last day!
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The message is completely empty — there is no sender, no subject, and no body content. Without any content, this message cannot answer the user's question about 'injury' in any way. There is nothing to analyze.